If there is no difference why do the OEM versions sell on eBay for less than the standard version? I was assuming that the bidders knew what they were bidding on, which isnt always the case. I bid on a stepping motor driver card for something I am building. When the bidding got over $70 I dropped out. The "winner" got the card for $110. Then I got an email from the seller. He has a cyberstore on eBay and sells the card to anyone for $99. Jerry Silverman Greentron Inc 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 greentron@xxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > I've bought about 4 Windows XP Homes (OEM version) on Ebay. They all > were sealed and had the product key on the back of the plastic wrapping. > No problem installing or activating the software. The only problem I had > was one of these turned out to be meant for Gateway computer only. It > had "Gateway" printed on the CD, otherwise it was the same software on > the disc and again, no problem installing or activating the software. I > wasn't happy about the Gateway label though because it didn't look good > selling a computer not Gateway brand with a Gateway authorized CD. > Luckily, my friend bought the computer so no big deal. The ebay ad did > not signify that there was anything out of the ordinary with the disc > and even the photo was that of a standard XP Home package. I gave the > seller a neutral feedback for not revealing that about the item. > > > > > > > Gary McCartney > > McCartney Electronics > Guelph Ontario Canada > Est. 1984 > email: gary (at) number63.ca > > > > > > > > Jerome Silverman wrote: > > > > About a year ago when all this came up I went to the Microsoft site to check > > Specs, fine print, prices. XP Home was about $200 US, XP Pro was about $400, > > including a license to install on one computer. The OEM version comes > > without a license and is intended for people who assemble computers and buy > > the license in bulk. On eBay and other sites you see all sorts of combos and > > prices but the only one that does you any good is one in a sealed package > > with the product ID number. If it has been installed and registered you may > > have a problem with Microsoft when you register it again. If you buy an OEM > > version you will also have to buy a license to register it. > > Jerry Silverman > > Greentron Inc > > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > > 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 > > greentron@xxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:31 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > > > $329?! XP Pro is only $150 or so (US) for the OEM version (same > > > as retail except that it won't upgrade another operating system). > > > You do have to shop around (such as using pricewatch.com) to > > > get good prices. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Bil Green > > > PC 1000 > > > Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > > > 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:05:51 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > TTE> $329 for XP Pro. > > > > > > TTE> -Ed- > > > TTE> Tel-Tek Electronics > > > TTE> Ontario-Canada > > > > > > TTE> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > TTE> Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. > > > TTE> ----- Original Message ----- > > > TTE> From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > > TTE> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > TTE> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM > > > TTE> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > > > > > > > >> What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago I paid $79 US on > > eBay. > > > >> Jerry Silverman > > > >> Greentron Inc > > > >> 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > > > >> 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 > > > >> greentron@xxxxxxx > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM > > > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth your effort to, if > > you > > > >> have > > > >> > an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP Home installed. > > > >> > > > > >> > -Ed- > > > >> > > > > >> > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > >> > Ontario-Canada > > > >> > > > > >> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> > > > >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM > > > >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Yes, I am still running 98. I get that 'Illegal operations' > > message > > > >> > > every so often, but I just ignore it and the computer keeps working > > > >> > > fine. I rarely get the BSOD. Is XP 100% stable? Other people > > have > > > >> > > complained about XP and tell me that if Windows 98 is working for > > me > > > TTE> to > > > >> > > just keep using it. What do you think? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Kevin Wilks > > > >> > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair > > > >> > > Penticton BC Canada > > > >> > > kevintv@xxxxxxx > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lessard > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 Kevin? Upgrade to XP. > > No > > > >> > > more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you can close down a > > crash > > > >> > > application. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > David Lessard > > > >> > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I hate them because my computer is always doing illegal operations > > and > > > >> > > will be shut down. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I hate them because I have high speed cable internet and a 1 gig > > CPU, > > > >> > > but sometimes when I connect to the internet it is like I am back > > on > > > >> > > dial-up. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Any more reasons? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Kevin Wilks > > > >> > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair > > > >> > > Penticton BC Canada > > > >> > > kevintv@xxxxxxx > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lessard > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Kevin, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Repeat after me...Computers are my friend...Computers are my > > > >> > > friend...everything should work just fine now...:-) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > David Lessard > > > >> > > Alexandria, Ontario > > > >> > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tel-Tek > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Kevin; > > > >> > > If you hate them, they will know...and do all kinds of odd things > > for > > > >> > > you.;-) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -Ed- > > > >> > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > >> > > Ontario-Canada > > > >> > > > > > >> > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> > > > >> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I hate computers all the time! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Kevin Wilks > > > >> > > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair > > > >> > > > Penticton BC Canada > > > >> > > > kevintv@xxxxxxx > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > > >> > > gulftech@xxxxxxxx > > > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM > > > >> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Jim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I have done that. That program is gone, but it came with > > add-ons, > > > >> > > that > > > >> > > > appear to be the problem. I need to know what wcpsvsu is. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Sometimes, I hate computers! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Ken Smith > > > >> > > > Gulf Technical Services > > > >> > > > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > > > >> > > > Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 > > > >> > > > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers > > <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> > > > writes: > > > >> > > > > Try uninstalling the time check program in windows control > > panel > > > >> > > > > add/remove programs. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > TTE> > > ************************************************************************ > > > >> > > > * > > > >> > > > ****************************************** > > > >> > > > > Since 1972 > > > >> > > > > Jim Myers > > > >> > > > > Telrad Electronics > > > >> > > > > Fort Wayne, Indiana > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > > >> > > > > > I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to do. It was > > "Time > > > >> > > > > Check" or > > > >> > > > > > something like that. Since then, my computer has been > > squirley. > > > >> > > > > I wish > > > >> > > > > > I could be more specific, but to be more specific, I would > > have > > > TTE> to > > > >> > > > > > restart and then fool with things to get my selected programs > > to > > > >> > > > > appear > > > >> > > > > > on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, all the icons on my > > > >> > > screen > > > >> > > > > > disappear. > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I am able to use the computer, but get the message "wcpsvsu > > not > > > >> > > > > > responding." Can someone tell me what that is, and a remedy > > for > > > >> > > > > it? > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > TIA, > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Ken Smith > > > >> > > > > > Gulf Technical Services > > > >> > > > > > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > > > >> > > > > > Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 > > > >> > > > > > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > > >> > > > > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > >> > > > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >> > > > - > > > >> > > > ---- > > > >> > > > > > Lost Password: > > > >> > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > >> > > > > > Email Archives: > > > >> > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >> > > > - > > > >> > > > ---- > > > >> > > > > Lost Password: > > > >> > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > >> > > > > Email Archives: > > > >> > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > >> > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! 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