That's only if you use the upgrade version to upgrade your previous operating system (a very bad idea). You CAN use a Windows upgrade to do a clean install. When you do this Setup will say that it didn't detect a previous operating system and give you the option of inserting a previous version of Windows (CD) in the CDROM to prove you have one. Then it will do a clean install (and for once, you do "get more than you paid for") In a pinch, you can even change an upgrade version of Windows to an OEM or Retail version (or the reverse, etc). -- Best regards, Bil Green PC 1000 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx Thursday, June 10, 2004, 1:47:29 PM, you wrote: TD> Indeed True. TD> However, Upgrade installs usually have some kind of irreperable issues later TD> because of it not being a clean Install. TD> It Parallels the Concept of using Cheap Generic Repair Parts over Original TD> Parts. You get what you pay for. TD> Steve Hearns TD> Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] TD> WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM TD> 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) TD> ----- Original Message ----- TD> From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> TD> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> TD> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:20 PM TD> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem TD> The upgrade version of both XP and XP is cheaper. TD> Jim McVey TD> McVey Alltronix TD> 327 Broadway TD> Newburgh Ny 12550 TD> ph: 845 561 8383 TD> fx: 845 561 9017 TD> Consumer electronics & TD> computer service. TD> Factory authorized for TD> over twenty brands. TD> ----- Original Message ----- TD> From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> TD> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> TD> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:05 PM TD> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> $329 for XP Pro. >> >> -Ed- >> Tel-Tek Electronics >> Ontario-Canada >> >> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> >> > What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago I paid $79 US on eBay. >> > Jerry Silverman >> > Greentron Inc >> > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 >> > 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 >> > greentron@xxxxxxx >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > >> > >> > > XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth your effort to, if you >> > have >> > > an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP Home installed. >> > > >> > > -Ed- >> > > >> > > Tel-Tek Electronics >> > > Ontario-Canada >> > > >> > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> >> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > > >> > > >> > > > Yes, I am still running 98. I get that 'Illegal operations' message >> > > > every so often, but I just ignore it and the computer keeps working >> > > > fine. I rarely get the BSOD. Is XP 100% stable? Other people have >> > > > complained about XP and tell me that if Windows 98 is working for me >> to >> > > > just keep using it. What do you think? >> > > > >> > > > Kevin Wilks >> > > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair >> > > > Penticton BC Canada >> > > > kevintv@xxxxxxx >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lessard >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM >> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > > > >> > > > Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 Kevin? Upgrade to XP. TD> No >> > > > more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you can close down a TD> crash >> > > > application. >> > > > >> > > > David Lessard >> > > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin >> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM >> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > > > >> > > > I hate them because my computer is always doing illegal operations TD> and >> > > > will be shut down. >> > > > >> > > > I hate them because I have high speed cable internet and a 1 gig TD> CPU, >> > > > but sometimes when I connect to the internet it is like I am back on >> > > > dial-up. >> > > > >> > > > Any more reasons? >> > > > >> > > > Kevin Wilks >> > > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair >> > > > Penticton BC Canada >> > > > kevintv@xxxxxxx >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lessard >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM >> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > > > >> > > > Kevin, >> > > > >> > > > Repeat after me...Computers are my friend...Computers are my >> > > > friend...everything should work just fine now...:-) >> > > > >> > > > David Lessard >> > > > Alexandria, Ontario >> > > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tel-Tek >> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM >> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > > > >> > > > Kevin; >> > > > If you hate them, they will know...and do all kinds of odd things TD> for >> > > > you.;-) >> > > > >> > > > -Ed- >> > > > Tel-Tek Electronics >> > > > Ontario-Canada >> > > > >> > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> >> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I hate computers all the time! >> > > > > >> > > > > Kevin Wilks >> > > > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair >> > > > > Penticton BC Canada >> > > > > kevintv@xxxxxxx >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> > > > gulftech@xxxxxxxx >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM >> > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> > > > > >> > > > > Jim, >> > > > > >> > > > > I have done that. That program is gone, but it came with add-ons, >> > > > that >> > > > > appear to be the problem. I need to know what wcpsvsu is. >> > > > > >> > > > > Sometimes, I hate computers! >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Ken Smith >> > > > > Gulf Technical Services >> > > > > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway >> > > > > Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 >> > > > > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers TD> <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > > > writes: >> > > > > > Try uninstalling the time check program in windows control panel >> > > > > > add/remove programs. >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> ************************************************************************ >> > > > > * >> > > > > ****************************************** >> > > > > > Since 1972 >> > > > > > Jim Myers >> > > > > > Telrad Electronics >> > > > > > Fort Wayne, Indiana >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: >> > > > > > > I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to do. It was "Time >> > > > > > Check" or >> > > > > > > something like that. Since then, my computer has been TD> squirley. >> > > > > > I wish >> > > > > > > I could be more specific, but to be more specific, I would TD> have >> to >> > > > > > > restart and then fool with things to get my selected programs TD> to >> > > > > > appear >> > > > > > > on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, all the icons on my >> > > > screen >> > > > > > > disappear. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am able to use the computer, but get the message "wcpsvsu TD> not >> > > > > > > responding." 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