[TechAssist] Re: Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.5 drill Charger

  • From: "Bruce Tiedeman" <btied@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:38:11 -0400

Hi Warren,
I don't want to drag this on. I understand the challenge to fix the unit. I
have a name brand Dewalt 9 volt drill. One of the batteries went dead and I
threw it away and realized afterwards could have fixed it. Any way the
replacement battery was $50 which I did not buy. Name brand is not what it
used to be! Two weeks ago I bought a 12 volt drill with two batteries at
Canadian Tire in Sarnia. (not kidding). What would that work out to in U.S
dollars! Almost as good a deal as Max.
It works great still can't get over the price.
Bruce.

B&T Electronics
139 Margaret St
Sarnia Ontario
Canada
N7T 2Y3
519 344 1850

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren C." <warrenca@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:22 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.5 drill Charger


> Max
> Your new drill will not be a Riobi. A Riobi does deserve some attempt to
fix it.
> You may have found a great deal there though but for us it's in US$$$$
> I like the challenge of trying to fix things like this. I don't like it
when
> companies take the numbers off parts.
> Do they think that their attempts help them sell all that many more
products???
> or that I'm going to steal their
> circuit??
> I wonder?
> Perhaps they just like to fill, land fill sites with lots of equipment
with very
> little wrong it.
>
> Thanks Max   I think that Ed is just kidding around.
>
> WC
>
> Old TV Man wrote:
>
> > I just bought a 14.4 drill with charger and several accessories for
> > $29.99 and am getting a $10.00 rebate. www.heartlandamerica.com
> >
> > Max Bonnell
> > Bonnell TV
> > Robinson, IL
> >
> > Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From:
> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx(Tel-Tek=A0Electronics) Date: Thu, Sep 23, 2004,
> > 1:08pm (CDT+1) To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re:
> > Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.4 drill Charger Reply=A0to:
> > techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Same thing goes for you...you cheap bugger. With your money...go out and
> > buy a new one. If he lets you dump your Garbage in his bin....you have a
> > good starting point.
> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I sort of kid about this stuff, but you are all
> > starting to realize, it's really not a worthwhile effort, unless your
> > own time is written off.
> > But an answer to Secondary would be at least 25 to 30 volts.
> >
> > -Ed-
> > Ed Gaidies
> > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > Ontario-Canada
> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:27 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.4 drill Charger
> >
> > Speaking of drill chargers, I have one here that I need to replace the
> > power transformer in it. The primary is open and no thermo fuse. The
> > drill is a Mastercraft (Canadian Tire, ED- your favourite :) ). How do I
> > know what secondary voltage to use? The drill is a 14.4V. Off hand, I
> > would think that around 18V to 20V winding would be about right. The
> > filter cap on the circuit board is rated 35V. Any ideas?
> >
> > Now to satisfy the "pitch it and buy new theory", this drill belongs to
> > a guy who lets me throw all my scrap electronics into his garbage bin in
> > return for repairing a few things he brings in. I at least need to put
> > in an effort on these items. In this case I do have a number of power
> > transformers sitting around doing nothing so parting with one is not a
> > big deal and it woulf keep me in good company with the bin.
> >
> > Gary McCartney
> > McCartney Electronics
> > Guelph Ontario Canada
> > Est. 1984
> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >
> > Edward Gaidies wrote:
> >
> > Warren;
> > Depending on the Charger, I would presume you have 12.2V from white to
> > red, and 12.2V from white red. The white is normally fed back to the
> > charger to determine when to go into trickle charge mode. The
> > question.....why are you pissing around with this, when you can go to
> > Canadian Tire, and buy a Drill with 2 Batteries and a Charger for
> > $79.95?:-)
> > Reason these Solid State Components have no part numbers on them, is
> > because they are not meant to be repaired, and even if there was a part
> > number, you don't expect to find a Parts Department for this
> > company....do you????
> > Come on...Get with the program;-)
> > I was using a B&D drill for 7 years, Had Internal NI-CAD battery packs
> > (2). When I wanted to replace the battery packs, they were $47 each. The
> > new version of this drill was $49 Retail. You must have a Birthday
> > coming up, or an Anniversary...Treat yourself...and if you can't find
> > your favourite color.....Paint it. HEHE. Typical Canadian.
> > -Ed-
> > **********************************************
> > Ed Gaidies
> > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > Ontario-Canada
> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > On 23-Sep-04, at 7:59 AM, Warren C. wrote:
> > Are you suggesting that this three legged device in the charger is a
> > protector of
> > some kind?
> > A white wire leads to it. The other two wires are red and black of
> > course.
> > When you test for vlotage at the battery itself to this third connector
> > one finds
> > that it is almost at
> > ground potential. It's so stupid when companys take the numbers off
> > parts!! This
> > ticks me off!!
> >
> > Warren C.
> >
> > Roger G wrote:
> > Third connector usually goes to a thermal protector or some kind of
> > protector
> >
> > Roger G.
> > Mr. Fix-It
> > Harrisburg, PA 17110 =A0 WebSite- http://mrfixit.netfirms.com
> > rogerfixit@xxxxxxxx
> > FAX 510-740-3641; Tel: 717-763-7098 (shop) 717-652-1703(home)
> > At 11:19 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > I hope no one minds this question.
> > Does anyone have a circuit diagram of this charging unit. The fast
> > charge light does not come on , only the other two lights.
> > I also would like to know what the third connector on the battery is
> > for. When you follow this wire into the charger you come to an output
> > devise (transistor??) that has no numbers on it. (figures eah)
> > My theory is that this devise may be bad and the drill batteries are
> > fine.
> > BTW the main (-) and (+) connections to the battery are on the left
> > and
> > right side and they connect fine.
> > When you test for voltage in the charger at these two points you get a
> > reading of 24.6 V
> > Can you help???
> > TIA
> >
> > Warren Campbell
> > Campbell's TV & Appliances
> > Cannington ON
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