Interesting..Thanks. -Ed- teltek@xxxxxxxxxxx TEL-TEK ELECTRONICS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Viereck" <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Best way to clean a head. > > Ed: > Yes. As tape speed increases the better frequency response will be the ultimate > result. This will increase the number of octaves that can be placed on the > tape. On a standard reel to reel tape machine 15 ips would achieve an > outstanding frequency response. But you sacrifice the amount of time you have > by the physical limitations of the tape length. I think a standard T120 tape we > only have 240 feet of tape. By helically writing on the tape rather than a > linear track we can take advantage of the short tape length and place it > diagonally on the tape. This way we can increase the head to tape writing > speed. > > At over 19 feet per second we have so much bandwidth we can record an FM R.F. > spectrum. In the case of HI-FI, I believe it is 1.3 mhz for L-R and 1.7 mhz for > L+R. > > Dennis Viereck > > Tel-Tek Electronics wrote: > > > Dennis; > > Would speed of VHS tape not effect the audio the same way that the old > > Reel-to-reel recorders worked. Use to replace the spindle size to increase > > the tape speed. More tape per inch, better frequency response? > > Although I agree that audio to the average person will not improve with one > > speed over another, since the audio is pretty good at any speed. > > > > -Ed- > > teltek@xxxxxxxxxxx > > TEL-TEK ELECTRONICS. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis Viereck" <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:09 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Best way to clean a head. > > > > > > > > Clint: > > > If you did the math you will find that the HI-FI head to tape velocity > > > should increase or decrease the overall velocity by less than 1 inch per > > > second. This insignificant amount is hardly enough to worry about when > > > the compared to the actual velocity is 19.03 fps. This is only 0.00045% > > > difference. Hardly enough to get any measurable difference in audio > > > quality. > > > > > > Dennis Viereck > > > > > > "OrpheusComputing.com Repair" wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, that's sort of what I said in an earlier email...it can > > > > show on paper in many cases, but not an audible difference > > > > because the specs are so good to start with. Back when hi-fi > > > > audio specs were checked and included in reviews (about 15yrs > > > > ago in "Stereo Review" and "High Fidelity" magazines, and in > > > > the owner's manuals from 10-15 yrs ago, usually the EP speed > > > > had about 1khz more on the high end, and less than a 3db > > > > increase on S/N ratio. When dealing with SN ratios of above > > > > 75db, of course you won't hear a difference of 3db, and with > > > > frequencies of ~20khz - 21khz, you won't notice only a 1khz > > > > difference. Usually these differences can only be seen on > > > > state of art equipment because the difference of the specs > > > > are within the +/- error margins of typical test equipment. > > > > > > > > The Hi-Fi audio >tape to head velocity< is 5.8 m/sec (19.03 > > > > fps) in either EP or SP only. It's slower at SP, but can't > > > > be the same for both speeds, obviously because the > > > > tape is moving at a different speed (1.3 ips LINEAR tape > > > > TRAVEL speed in SP vs .4375 ips in EP), but the drum is still > > > > turning at 1800rpm. Yesterday I mentioned 19 fps, but I > > > > can't recall if that was for EP or SP...I THINK it was EP, > > > > but I could be wrong on that. I've looked all over the place > > > > the past hour and cannot find a simple chart for SP vs EP > > > > writing speeds! I can't find anything on the subject. > > > > > > > > Yes it's as good as CD, that's why I used to record music > > > > on VHS tapes instead of a cassette deck. Hard getting > > > > that VCR into the car though....... :-) > > > > -Clint > > > > > > > > Happy Thanksgiving & > > > > God Bless Us All > > > > Clint Hamilton, Owner > > > > http://OrpheusComputing.com > > > > http://ComputerHardware-ConsumerElectronics.com > > > > sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Fax: 209-882-9602 > > > > TechAssist Administration > > > > http://tech-assist.org > > > > techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dennis Viereck" <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:07 AM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Best way to clean a head. > > > > > > > > I did tests when HI-FI first came out. It really made no > > > > difference at all if > > > > the tape was recorded in SP or EP for sound quality. Dynamic > > > > range was greater > > > > than 80 db and un-weighted wow and flutter was under .008%. > > > > There was no > > > > measurable difference between SP or EP. The HI-FI tape to > > > > head velocity is > > > > still 5.8 meters per second. > > > > The only measurable problem I've seen on these machines is > > > > tangential > > > > switching noise from time to time. This is caused by a gap > > > > between the RF > > > > envelopes between HI-FI head "A" & HIFI head "B". Usually on > > > > machines that are > > > > worn. > > > > > > > > Don't sell VHS HI-FI short. It is very close to CD quality. > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > Ledstiles@xxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/25/2001 11:44:38 AM Pacific Standard > > > > Time, > > > > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > > > > > > > > << > > > > > > there....the hi-fi audio quality is actually better in > > > > most > > > > > > cases @ EP (slowest speed) because due to the rotation > > > > of the > > > > > > head drum, it is the same direction of the tape path; so > > > > if > > > > > > you slow that down to EP, the tape of course then is > > > > going > > > > > > slower therefore the 'writing speed' is increased. It > > > > is > > > > > > usually not noticeable to ears since the audio specs are > > > > so > > > > > > good to begin with, but it does show on paper. Usually > > > > ab >> > > > > > I don't buy it. audio quaility is always better in sp speed > > > > vers ep speed. > > > > > Larry > > > > > N.C.S. > > > > > > > > ================================= > > > > Help make your TechAssist database better! > > > > Submit your fixes here: http://circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > > > > ================================= > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE your email address, click here: > > > > mailto:techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > > ================================= > > > Help make your TechAssist database better! > > > Submit your fixes here: http://circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > > > ================================= > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE your email address, click here: > > > mailto:techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > > > ================================= > > Help make your TechAssist database better! > > Submit your fixes here: http://circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > > ================================= > > To UNSUBSCRIBE your email address, click here: > > mailto:techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > > ================================= > Help make your TechAssist database better! > Submit your fixes here: http://circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > ================================= > To UNSUBSCRIBE your email address, click here: > mailto:techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > ================================= Help make your TechAssist database better! 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