[team33] Re: [implementation] work work and work
- From: Yusuf Hasanogullari <yusufh@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: team33@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:22:53 +0100
Hi!
Ok Alexei, here comes some criticism. Don't take it personally as I'm
just doing it because I want the project to flow better and for you to
get even better than you already are.
I didn't know if it was better to send this to you personally or to
the whole group. In the end I think it is better if we are open so I
will send it to the whole group and then maybe we can all contribute
with coming up with a solution. Also, since the criticism is done in a
friendly tone there is no problem with sending it to everyone I think.
You are doing a great job, much better job than the project leaders in
other groups from what I have heard from my friends. I really
appreciate (and I am sure the others in our component group do as
well) the way you always help if something is unclear, you do a lot of
work, you always know what is going on and what the next thing to do
is, what steps need to be taken care of for the project to be as good
as possible, you know which persons are best suited for which tasks so
therefore you assign people to tasks that fit them and you also make
sure everybody works equally much. But this small change in attitude
is something you need to make to be even better:
Problem is, you don't seem to realise that this is not the only course
that most of us have. I for example have three other courses, and when
setting up meetings like you did in your last mail, sometimes it is
impossible for me (and probably others) to attend. There is of course
nothing we can do about this problem, but I would like you to know
that this is the case and realise that you cannot expect us to come to
some of the meetings. You cannot say something like "you must come to
the meeting tomorrow" because sometimes we have lifes of our own after
schooltime and sometimes we have other classes to attend.
If I don't attend a meeting, I read the new stuff added to the
repository and make up for it that way, and I am sure the others do as
well.
Now as I said, there is nothing we can do to solve the
not-attending-problem, but just realising this will probably help you
plan better and not expect us to be able to attend some of the
meetings.
I will come tomorrow so we'll see each other then.
/Yusuf
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:16:07 +0100, Joachim Reuss
<i00joare@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Great job with the design report guys! I will definitely come to the meet=
ing
> tomorrow. I've started writing on the test report, but at this point it's
> not very clear what should be in it. But we can discuss it tomorrow.
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> See you!
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> Joachim
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexei Kounine" <aleko379@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <team33@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:27 PM
> Subject: [team33] [implementation] work work and work
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> Ok now that the report is handed in, listen carefuly to what happens
> next.
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> The plan says that next week we have a "First Integration milestone"
> (Martin you should have warned us with this! Next time send an email to
> the whole team about the incoming deadlines, milestones and
> presentations, ok?), meaning that we will have to try to put our
> components together with the GUI and Algorithm. This is quite a big
> problem since the implementation is at its lowest level: we just started
> writing some classes, nothing more.
> We will have to really move our asses this week end.
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> One big problem in our team is that work isn't shared equally. I wanted
> to tell you about this at a meeting, but time is short, so i'll do it
> now. I am not the only one to think that some people did much less job
> than the others. By this i mean that Rama, Fredrik and Yusuf (who still
> did a bit more than the 2 others) don't have any specific task such as a
> report to hand in. All the others have written, or will write a report.
> Now if you disagree with what i said, please tell me, i might be wrong.
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> Time has come for you guys to invest more time in the project. The
> coding part starts right now.
> -First i want you to read carefully the Design document and understand
> it (same for the other team members, especially Joachim and Jonas).
> -Our way of implementing interfaces really sucks, and actually the whole
> internal structure of classes must be modified to allow synchronization
> of multiple connections to the mysql database. This will probably be
> done with the help of a ConnectionPool class shared at the same time by
> the GUI and us. I will discuss it today with the other project leader,
> and we'll try to clarify that.
> -tomorrow i want you to come at 13.15 at Java caf=E9 (the GUI team will b=
e
> there as well) to start coding. While i will be discussing interfaces,
> you guys will start writing the sql queries and methods that the others
> will use (take a look at retrieveLinks(), retrieveArcs()).
> -What i don't want to do is telling you every word you need to write.
> You will have to think about it yourself. (Otherwise it's much easier
> for me to do it myself. I don't want this). But don't worry too much
> about it, i will still give you some information tomorrow.
> -You two will be responsible for having something which looks more or
> less like a complete system until tuesday.
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> Did you get it?
> Please answer, and tell me if you come (you must).
> Chatting by mail about code is very difficult, this is why i want you to
> come.
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> For everyone. I think that you don't give enough feedback to Jonas. Once
> again the experience report is important, don't forget it. What i
> usually do is: when something goes wrong or if i'm not happy with our
> work, i write a mail to Jonas. Same for the case where i'm satisfied for
> something. So please do the same. Send him a mail for anything! Ok?
> And Jonas, i know that you're sick now. When it gets better can you
> start developping these first months in the report, including meetings,
> reports from everyone concerning the hours, the general working
> athmosphere and stuff like this?
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> Joachim, you can start planning the testing. By this i mean just create
> a new document, and start filling in the squeletton with stuff, without
> thinking about the implementation of testing programs. All right? I
> don't want to be as late as we were with the design!
> Is it clear?
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> Yusuf, as you're the one who is close to the requirements now, you have
> to help Joachim with planning the testing, which will be based on the
> requirements. I want you to participate more to the meetings, and get a
> clear idea of the state of the project right now, so that you can give
> ideas about testing. I think this work is the most difficult: building
> programs for testing if the requirements are fulfilled. Contact Joachim
> for that, and if you don't agree with my idea, please reply!
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> Ok guys! Don't be shy criticising also what i do. I'm also experiencing
> this kind of work for the first time, and therefore i must do mistakes
> somewhere! So really if you want to say something mean, fight with me or
> even offer me a beer, just do it!
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> I wish you Good luck! And i really count on you to do your respective
> jobs.
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> /Alex
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> --
> --------
> Alexei Kounine
> Email:
> <alexei.kounine@xxxxxxx>
> <aleko379@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Site:
> http://anciensdeferney.free.fr/intouch
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