LDRS leaders,
There are quite a few contest that you can do for the kids.
1. Highest altitude on A, B, C, D motors
2. Longest flight duration: A, B, C, D motors
3. Egg loft, highest and duration (egg must be raw and intact).
4. Closet to the pad: B, C, D - rockets need go greater than 200 feet in
altitude
5. Two stage, highest flight on 2 B’s , 2 C’s, 2 D’s
Just my $0.02 worth.
david
From: tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ;
On Behalf Of Eric Renger
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 15:59
To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tccrockets] Re: LDRS37 - Special Events
I know it’s a bit late to be thinking about this, but should there some kind of
event for kids or other non-HPR fliers? You can fly up to 8 D motors in a drag
race off the LPR pads, correct?
On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:46 PM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks! More details on this later this week...
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Eric Renger <ericrenger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
These events look great, James!
On Mar 18, 2018, at 9:44 PM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey Folks,
Ok, here is what we have for events so far:
TCC Avalanche Competition
-------------------------
- Mad Cow Avalanche
- Either 75 or 54mm motor allowed
- Up to 16 FLIERS (2 Heats of Eight)
- Up to TWO Winners
Scoring - up to 100 points
- LDRS37 Decal - 5 pts
- Most beautiful rocket - 15 pts
- First off the pad - 30 pts
- First on the ground - 20 pts
- Highest Altitude - 20 pts
- Shortest recovery distance - 10pts
Motor: TBD
Nike Smoke Drag Race
--------------------
- up to 8 Nike Smokes, K2045/K2050
- First off the pad wins
Demon Drag Race
----------------
- up to 8 Wildman Demons, M2500
- First off the pad wins
Crayon Rocket Dragrace
-----------------------
- First off the Pad
- Lowest Altitude
- Last to Land
- Best 2 out of 3.
- Pairs - 4 races of 2 each
- H motors only.
Mass Monkey Loft
---------------
Boost a monkey skydiver (Crazy Tugs dog chew toy from Costco) in a large
diameter rocket using a low impulse motor
to 800-1000'. You can stuff a pretty good sized monkey in a 7.5” airframe. The
rocket and monkey come down on separate
parachutes. The award is for the most impressive Monkey recovery on a
parachute.
I will post this next week, then vendors can decide what they want to support
and how. I"m still also open to people
coming up with new ideas... Eric's is an original one for sure :-)
Thanks!
-James
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:21 PM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes,correct. Send me the text and the signup details and i will make a signup
sheet on the website for pads 1E-8E (2000’ Wilson FX Drag pad) - I cant wait to
use the Armageddon switch on Bank E!
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Eric Renger <ericrenger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I wil have it all memorized by LDRS!
But in my defense, I interpreted what Chris wrote as saying the main bank of
HPR pads are usually at 500’, and it didn’t sound right to me. So I was on the
right track! Now I see he meant that if we keep under the complex L limit, we
would not have to move out to 500’ or further, and we could use the pads where
they usually are (at 300’).
Anyway…
If the pads are at 300’, then am I understanding it right that as long as all
of the motors in the monkey loft add up to 2,560 N-s or less, we are good to go
at the 300’ pads? And that’s good for any combo of H, I, J, or even K motors as
long as the total is less than 2,560 N-s?
If that’s right, then I think we should be good to go. Would we just bring a
list of all the motors in the drag race and a total of N-s when we check in for
pad assignments?
On Mar 14, 2018, at 3:05 PM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Eric! Please review the minimum safe distances for non-complex and commit to
memory :-)
http://www.tripoli.org/Portals/1/Documents/Safety%20Code/SLP%202017.pdf
Standard HPR pads are at *300* feet, this lets you fly H-L without a second
rack for HPR.
At LDRS, we'll move L fliers to the away cell if it is busy, else we have to
shut down LPR.
Plan is to fly model rockets while loading HPR, or fly HPR while loading away.
So it will be a *deluxe* setup.
Aaron is reviewing the range setup and we should be able to post them soon with
more detail
then you will ever need, including precautions... special thanks to Steve and
Aaron for the attention
to detail.
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Eric Renger <ericrenger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Are the standard high power pads usually 500 feet? I would have guessed they
were usually closer than that, but if that’s the case, then we should be fine
for as many monkeys as we are likely to get. I was hoping to fly from the
standard HPR pads, and it looks doable. That’s one giant leap for monkey kind!
On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Chris Attebery <chrisattebery1971@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Eric,
This is how I interpret the rules.
If we fly 2 rockets we have to use the minimum safe distance for a complex
rocket with the total installed impulse. Two H, I or J motors would require
200'.
If we fly 3 or more rockets then the rules quoted from the LDRS37 website below
apply. Since we're talking about a H/I drag race the lesser of the three rules
should apply. We could fly15 H motored rockets or 7 I motored rockets and stay
below the complex L minimum of 500' where the standard high power pads are
usually located.
Chris
When three or more rockets (at least one high power) are launched
simultaneously, the minimum distance for all involved rockets shall be the
lesser of:
1. The complex distance for the total installed impulse. (refer to V.
Distance Tables)
2. 2000 ft (610 M)
3. 1.5 times the highest altitude expected to be achieved by any of the
rockets
Those flying vehicles in a drag race and wish to use Part (1) or Part (3) will
need to demonstrate expected vehicle performance otherwise all drag races will
be conducted at 2000′ (610M).
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:36 PM Eric Renger <ericrenger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Cool. One question about the Simian Space Program Synchronized Monkey Jump drag
race, if this is kept to H and I impulse motors, can it be held at a closer
bank of pads? At 2k, the apes would need to be Kong-sized to see them! How many
H and I rockets can be flown in a drag race at the closer pads?
On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:11 PM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Its fine, you guys can do any drag race you want - if you have 5-10 people
we're set - that's why we setup a 2K range :-)
Let me know - see my last email!
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Eric Renger <ericrenger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
LOL! I’m not even sure what the hit the quotient contest is or was.
My idea is not really for a contest, unless someone has contest ideas. It’s
more of a spectacle.
I’m not sure if the idea is really right for LDRS or not. Everyone loves the
high-performance aspects of rocketry, and that may be more what the event is
about. But sometimes you just want to see a bunch of skydiving monkeys…
Let me know what you think. I bought a 3-pack of monkeys, so I have 2 to spare
if anyone wants one. (Although, one got a bit chewed by a dog we were
dog-sitting over the weekend.)
On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:51 PM, JAMES FRANCO <aldocyber3@xxxxxxx> wrote:
What the shit?????
And I thought the hit the quotient contest was odd.
Jimmy F.
Tripoli Rocketry Association
Member 12524
Level 3
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From: tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ;
On Behalf Of Eric Renger
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:29 PM
To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tccrockets] Re: LDRS37 - Special Events
TCC is known for these insane high-thrust drag races, which are awesome.
Is anyone interested in also doing something more on the silly side? How about
a Mass Monkey Loft?
Last week at a LUNAR launch, I boosted a monkey skydiver in my Warlock, and it
was a lot of fun. You can stuff a pretty good sized monkey in a 7.5” airframe.
Mine was a Crazy Tugs dog chew toy from Costco, 3 for $13. He folds up small
but is 18” long when stretched out. I used a very small motor for this size
rocket to keep it low so you could watch the monkey start his jump — H295 to
only about 600’. For added drama, the monkey had a Chute Release so he could
get a 400’ free fall and deploy his chute at 200’. The crowd at the launch
seemed to really enjoy it.
Here is a video: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahx_sSuw7LA>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahx_sSuw7LA ;
Is anyone up for a drag race with monkey payload? If you have a Warlock or
Doorknob or any other large diameter rocket, this chew toy is a great fit and
easy to set up. Personally, I think the super low flight was funny in its own
way too, but that and the chute release could be up to the choice of each
individual monkey. It’s mostly about seeing the parachuting monkeys, so if we
could do the drag race on the closest bank of HPR pads, it would be best. If we
could get a few people interested in this, I think it could be more fun than a
barrel of monkeys!
Any interest in a Mass Monkey Loft?
On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:10 AM, James Dougherty < <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Cool! See my last email, everyone should let me know if they want to do an
L3200 Drag race or if
they are going 54mm .. I will see what we can do for a motor and case deal to
go with it.
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Ben Sandoval < <mailto:hdbenstereo@xxxxxxxxx>
hdbenstereo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
just saw this and ordered it online.... it went through hoping I get the kit
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:08 PM, James Dougherty < <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Folks,
LDRS37 Kit special - the Avalanche from Madcow Rocketry!
Only 100 of these kits are available so order now!
<https://www.madcowrocketry.com/3-avalanche>
https://www.madcowrocketry.com/3-avalanche
Who's gonna drag-race me?
Thank you!
-James
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:03 PM, James Dougherty < <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Alright everyone, listen up - this is the first of one very cool
announcement!!!!
Rod had the great idea for an LDRS37 Special Kit so we worked on it and
guess what - in 1 hour, you're going to get a GREAT deal. In fact, it is a
better
deal then the Nike Apache kit (and we will talk about Nikes after that).
Anyhow, please come back in one hour - this will be a limited run kit and
only 100 available, one of the reasons we can do this is because of Nike Apache.
Hint - it's named after Mark Canepa's range vehicle :-)
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:30 PM, James Dougherty < <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks Vito,
Probably Saturday afternoon - but we can only do heats of 5 max.
I updated on the website and kept the redline version - it is here.
<http://tccrockets.com/v2/tcc-documents/QSNSDR.pdf>
http://tccrockets.com/v2/tcc-documents/QSNSDR.pdf
I want everyone to take a look at the new rules for 2017; we will probably
never do a 10 rocket drag again unless we move way way out...
-James
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:03 PM, ravenfireflyer <
<mailto:ravenfireflyer@xxxxxxxxxx> ravenfireflyer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
James
I am in on both kits and the drag race.
What day do you plan to have the race?
Vito
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 8, 2018, at 2:37 PM, John Venable (Redacted sender "mtnbikrmax1" for
DMARC) < <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I will definitely take the LDRS Special.4" Nike Smoke.
Thanks, John Venable
NAR WEENIE #90787 lol
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 2:35 PM, James Dougherty <
<mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey Bruce,
Sounds great.
So I spoke with Mike Stoop earlier, he is going to look into a design for an
LDRS37 rocket kit ($100) for us; more on that this week!
Separately, we will get coupon codes for Nike Apache and Smoke (Molded) for
LDRS37!
-James
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Rohn < <mailto:bhrohn@xxxxxxxxx>
bhrohn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I want one.
Probably would not beable to fly the Nike Apache for LDRS but I definitely want
one.
Please consider me for one
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:04 PM, James Dougherty < <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here's the kit:
<https://www.madcowrocketry.com/4-fiberglass-nike-apache/>
https://www.madcowrocketry.com /4-fiberglass-nike-apache/
How many people are in on the kit if we get the $100 special?
Thanks!
-James
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:01 PM, James Dougherty < <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Folks,
Two things for the LDRS in May
- Nike Smoke Drag Race? Do we want to have it? Would need to do in heats of 5.
- 2 Stage Nike Apache Altitude Contest and Kits - how many people are
interested in the Nike Apache 2 stage
which some of you may have received in the Madcow special?
If we did another kit run and LDRS special, would people purchase the kit?
Would they
participate in an altitude competition for the Nike Apache? (I->H)
Separately, we will have some discount codes and more LDRS details in the weeks
ahead.
Thanks!
-James
