Stop in Lawton, OK. There is a little town called Cache and it is the entrance to the Wichita Mountains Wildlife Preserve. 62000 acres of grasslands and mountains. Free roaming buffalo and longhorn. It is a very nice place to camp and hike. Google it for pics and such. --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] ya'll have created a monster To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 1:11 PM #yiv1264363937 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1264363937 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I was cleaning out my "man room" the other day and came across some pictures of a road trip my friend jason and i took in his 83 aircooled vanagon. i looked through them and told diana, "i want to do that again." Her response was "when does your vacation pay start at work?" Well my first response was "yea right, you're so full of it" and she said i think you'd get bored by yourself. I told her she should come. she said no but what about jason (another dude named jason, not the one you guys know). so i called and he said hell yea. So here is the plan. I am going to revolve this trip around the Texas VW classic. my plan is to work half a day on friday and drive down to fredricksburg to kick off the next ultimate road trip. do the whole fredricksburg shin-dig and then on sunday go to El Paso, find a nice place to camp and then on monday go to albuquerque, New Mexico. camp somewhere nice and then head for either Amarillo or Oklahoma city. then back home. i have the horrible habit of planning everything out so these will be the destination points...everything else will be stricktly based on here's a campsite, let's go here. here is what the circle looks like on mapquest: http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n256/i_am_cool_fred/Picture1-3.png does anyone else have any recommendations on where to start, stop or go to? i want it to be fun, and want to go across some open ranches and see some longhorns. looks like it will be about 2300 miles of driving :D Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live Click here