-----Original Message-----
From: Dan
Sent: Dec 28, 2007 5:38 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's



Two problems: 

 

First, your range would be limited based on the availability of banana peels.  You could carry a lot of bananas with you but at some point space is an issue and you are going to get tired of eating bananas eventually.  Just watch a Gilligan's Island episode and you can easily verify this.

 

Second, the magnetic bubble would interfere with your radio reception.  Sure you could wimp out and take CD's or MP#'s with you but part of the fun of road trippin' is trying to find a decent local station..nothing like listening to the farm report on seven different stations in a single day.  Now that is some real excitement!  Without the radio it just wouldn't be a road trip.  

----- Original Message -----

From: Will Wood

To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:24 PM

Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's

Yes, but what about maglev?  I would think that you could generate enough power with a Mr. Fusion and a few banana peels to make that thing hover.  If you could create an optimal magnetic bubble around the bus, then wind resistance could be mitigated.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan
Sent: Dec 28, 2007 4:40 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's

You would have to worry about the wind resistance if you mounted the flux capacitor on the roof.  The increased resistance would call for more power so you would be right back to needing a turbo again. 

 

I think a better idea would be to build your house at the highest elevation in the US.  Every VW event in the country would be a downhill drive for you so you could take advantage of the hill to generate high speeds.  The drive home would be a bitch though.

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Denning

To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:21 PM

Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's

what if i put the flux capacitor on top of the bus...i.e. in the luggage rack? then the heat would be outside the engine compartment...now if i can just get the bus up to 88mph i could go back to when you were my age so i can slap you and not feel bad :D j/k denis, you're awesome.

> From: coocoo@xxxxxxx
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:15:52 -0600
>
> Brianstein, I think that you are looking for a whole bunch of complication
> with a turbo. What you might want to look into is nuclear fusion. Not
> fission with all the waste problems that you will have for the next 250,000
> years and all that radioactivity messing up your hair and all, but fission,
> where all you will get is heat and light. The Sun does it everyday,
> compressing hydrogen until it becomes helium, but you will be saving money
> by using seawater as fuel. You might have a problem with the containment of
> the 1,000,000 plus degrees of heat, but I think it can be done with magnets.
> You might not be able to have that much heat in the engine compartment
> because of the problem with the #3 cylinder. You might have to pull it
> behind your bus with a small trailer and use really really good oil.
>
> See the article at http/ohmygodthechinasyndrome.huh? or
> http//snowballschanceinhell.ohno.
>
> I think putting in a Subaru motor is easier.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Will Wood" <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:33 PM
> Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
>
>
> > The only idea for keeping it out of the engine compartment is to keep
> > the engine cooling air temps down. You have that big fan sucking air
> > from the ducts, if the turbo is in there with the exhaust ducting you're
> > adding a lot of surface area that's 100s of degrees. More hot air for
> > the engine to deal with.
> >
> > A belt driven supercharger OTOH doesn't require the exhaust ducting.
> > You then just have the intercooler plumbing to worry about.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 12:26 -0600, Brian Denning wrote:
> >> the idea is to mount the blow through turbo under the rear apron that
> >> way it is under the bus and not in the engine compartment...the only
> >> thing that would be in the compartment would be the fresh air
> >> hoses...there is plenty of room to run an intercooler on one side of
> >> the engine compartment but the question there is how do you get water
> >> to flow in it? then do you have to have a radiator to cool the water?
> >> what about an electric fan and do an air to air intercooler?
> >>
> >> efi is a definate future for the bus...just would rather it be in the
> >> far future than the near future. using the true full flow that i have
> >> i could easily run an external oil cooler to help with engine temps so
> >> the only worry left is the cht's.
> >>
> >> the ol' pockets have a hole in them so i have been reading alot on the
> >> junkyard builds that are on the world wide web. it seems very
> >> plausible the question is what do i need to look out for besides the
> >> obvious engine temp problem.
> >>
> >> how much would it increase my temps by if i kept the turbo part out of
> >> the engine compartment? (which is the plan)
> >>
> >> > Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
> >> > From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:18:18 -0600
> >> >
> >> > Brian,
> >> >
> >> > I would leave it this way.... I've built a few engines, including
> >> ones
> >> > with turbos. Unless I was building something for the track I'd avoid
> >> > it, in a bus, especially for the street.
> >> >
> >> > Anytime you compress a gas, it induces heat in the gas... (Molecules
> >> > bumpin uglies). Unless you can dissapate that heat you'll have a
> >> hot,
> >> > thin (low density) air charge going into the engine. More heat in =
> >> > more heat out and in an aircooled engine that can be a problem.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, but how deep are your
> >> > pockets? If it were me, EFI, Intercooler (air to water) and an
> >> > aerocharger style with the turbo kept low and out of the engine
> >> > compartment.
> >> >
> >> > I'd start by reading some of the books out there.
> >> >
> >> > If you want some simple examples..
> >> >
> >> > http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/turboflow.html
> >> >
> >> > Now, since you have a bay. Here's a simpler route to go IMO..
> >> >
> >> > This would be my inspiration... ;-)
> >> >
> >> > http://www.race-taxi.ch/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> http://video.aol.com/video-detail/vw-t1-biturbo-porsche-993-racing-in-spa/751231475
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 09:23 -0600, Brian Denning wrote:
> >> > > which is why i wanted those who know about turbo's to send me a pm
> >> > > cause i figured those who don't may post something dumb...oh wait
> >> > > someone just did.
> >> > >
> >> > > added torque at top end, better gas mileage if you stay out of it,
> >> > > more power, hmmm all things that a bus needs...yep, it's retarded
> >> > >
> >> > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:49:19 -0600
> >> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
> >> > > > From: eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >
> >> > > > turbo buses are retarded.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Brian Denning said:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > who knows about 'em??? pm me i have a couple of small
> >> questions
> >> > > about the
> >> > > > > install.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > no, it's not being done yet but i'm going shopping on saturday
> >> at
> >> > > the pick
> >> > > > > and pull.
> >> > > > >
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