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well, the bosses on the arms are forged pieces, bending them isn't an option. Likewise running without them, as you've observed, is dodgy.
raise it up one notch and run the short shocks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Denning
Sent: Mar 25, 2008 6:33 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
it has been suggested to me to go shockless but just driving it around town it has sooo much bounce i wouldn't dare take it on the interstate. i measured the total bounce that the bus has (including tire pressure) if i jack the bus up till the left front is 1" off the ground and i make a line and then i unload the jack it only goes down about an inch from my original mark. the fear that i have though is that when i sit in the bus the bus goes down about 1/4"
if i bend my bumpstops up to where when i hit a bump the bumpstops will catch it before the shocks bottom out i think it will work to run the lowered beetle shocks.
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:20:09 -0400
From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
Good luck and no problem on the questions. Just remember, your tires will rub first as it already appears that that's what they're doing.
Most of the guys who run the narrowed beams on bugs fully down don't run the shocks which is unsafe and
when you consider a bus, it's even more unsafe.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Denning
Sent: Mar 25, 2008 3:39 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
the ball joints aren't bottoming out and i only plan on driving it that way this year, and when winter hits i will hopefully have enough dough saved up to buy drop spindles and new torsion arms, with preinstalled ball joints for the front. by then it will be time for new ball joints anyway, and it shouldn't be to difficult of a project either now that i know what i am doing on it.
i'll check with my guy at autozone and see what we can do on durango shocks.
thanks for having patience with me.
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:32:22 -0400
From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
The other alternative may be to use shocks off of a Durango. I know a few folks who've done that with the very low setup you have. I don't know
any more details on them than that.
You do realize with it being all beam that your caster angle is nearly vertical right?
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Denning
Sent: Mar 25, 2008 3:24 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
it is all adjusters, no spindles. from bolt to bolt at ride height is 10.5", a compressed stock shock from eyelet to eyelet. a compressed lowered beetle shock from eyelet to eyelet is 9.5"
my shocks aren't bottoming out because i don't have any shocks on it right now...the tires slam into the fender wells on a huge bump though. when i did have shocks on the front it just sat on the bottomed out shocks with no suspension...my fear is that 1" of travel with the lowered beetle shocks isn't going to be enough suspension travel because it takes 2.5" for the tires to bottom out instead of the shock....it isn't good ont he shocks for them to bottom out which is why i am asking this question. if lowered beetle shocks is the smallest thing i can get then i am going to have to make some sort of adapter to raise the shock mount up an inch or so, so i can run the shocks without them bottoming out...oh, and the swaybar drags the ground when going down the road before the tires hit the fender wells too.
in case ya'll are wondering the bus is a little under a half a hubcap off the ground at the bottom of the bumper, and it's all beam.
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:49:28 -0400
From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
If you have stock bus shocks on their now you're not bottoming them out. Your tires are hitting first. Is all of your lowering in the spindles or are you using the adjusters to bring it down a bit more?
If you are using your adjusters to get lower, go with the shorter shocks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Denning
Sent: Mar 25, 2008 2:41 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
so then i could make something kind of like a leaf spring shackle on the back of an old ford to raise the shock mount up an inch and run the lowered beetle shocks then?
if so i'm calling roy rogers back.
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:20:43 -0400
From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
That pic tells me everything you need to know. You're already rubbing, so you could just replace it with what size you have on there now or the short shocks.
Without the bump stop you're travel is only limited by when either a) the tire hits the tub or b) the Shock bottoms out. You're in condition "a" already.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Denning
Sent: Mar 25, 2008 1:57 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
what about if i was to do something like this just to raise the location of the shock mount:
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/158801.jpg
From: i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:55:42 -0500
i was wrong i have about 2.5" before the tires go into the fender wells.
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:37:24 -0400
From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
What's your total travel? Or at least minimum and do you have bump stops on the beam?
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Denning
Sent: Mar 25, 2008 12:37 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
ok, i just called roy rogers, there lowered shocks are 9.5" completely compressed. that would only allow me to have 1" of travel...actually 3/4" once my fat ass got in the bus. looks like i'll be making an adapter or something so i can run the 9.5 shock.
my adjsuters are 3 down rather than the two...and i really love the stance. any other suggestions?
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:57:54 -0500
> From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
>
>
> lowered since I have adjusters down two notches. If I ran stock height shocks I'd be bottoming them out all the time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: singlecabboy <sealingwaxred@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Mar 24, 2008 9:59 PM
> >To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
> >
> >Do you use the lowered or the stock heighth ?
> >--- Will Wood <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
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> >http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=lowered+shock&Search2.x=0&Search2.y=0&Search2=Search
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Brian Denning
> >Sent: Mar 24, 2008 7:55 PM
> >To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
> >
> >is there a part number by chance?
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [tcb] Re: shocks for the front of ol' hershey
> >Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:39:10 -0500
> >To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >Get short lowered (shorter) shocks from a bug.
> >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@hotmailcom>
> >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:50 PM
> >To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [tcb] shocks for the front of ol' hershey
> >
> >i can't find any that are small enough for the front
> >of the bus. at ride height it is 10.5" from shock
> >mount to shock mount. what are some of you lowered bus
> >guys running?
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