In a message dated 12/13/05 9:15:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, slsmith@xxxxxxxxx writes: Ugh, Jack I don't know. But I bought my first new car, a 1956 Type I VW when, of course, they were new. Anyone older than that probably doesn't need to be on the road in a VW bus. Sammie At 11:06 PM 12/12/2005, you wrote: >In a message dated 12/12/05 4:05:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, >slsmith@xxxxxxxxx writes: >To all bus guys and gals: > >HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR! And may your bus and other >VWs get everything they want for Xmas. > >This message brought to you by the oldest bus driver among you; and that >includes Denis. >Sammie > > >Sammy: > >Do you want to bet? > >Jack Kirsch Sammy: I bought my first VW (used) a 1958 black sedan in 1959. so, you may be right. Jack