[tcb] Re: mike everet

  • From: Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:42:52 -0500

I'm nowhere near hitting my steering box.
The tops of the tires hitting the front wheel arches when I hit bumps.
Not so much when I'm by myself, but if I have somebody in the passenger
seat it gets pretty annoying.

Denis wrote:
> Do you mean your tires are rubbing or are you scraping your steering box?
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Eric Woodall <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:25 AM
>     *Subject:* [tcb] Re: mike everet
>
>     I'm bottoming out the front of my bus.  It started happening after
>     I put on the Hankook RA-08 tires.
>     I think I'm going to go for some lower profile 14" tires and maybe
>     put the Hankooks on the Vanagon.
>
>     Denis wrote:
>>     No. He is still officially lowered, and I like him that way, but
>>     I was working on how not to have the front tires rub without
>>     narrowing the beam. Along with some other tweaks, I raised the
>>     settings on the springplates and maybe brought him up 1/2 inch.
>>     It did pretty much eliminate the rubbing.
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         *From:* Eric Woodall <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:35 AM
>>         *Subject:* [tcb] Re: mike everet
>>
>>         Did you take the drop spindles off?
>>         Seems like it was still lowered the last time I saw it (him)
>>         at the Classic?
>>
>>         Denis wrote:
>>>         I raised Murray using the springplates. I have a little
>>>         camber, but the tires are wearing smoothly. It may change
>>>         when you load the bus and get in it. Springplates are easy
>>>         and if you don't like it, you can put it back and it's free.
>>>
>>>             ----- Original Message -----
>>>             *From:* Brian Denning <mailto:i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>             *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>             *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:16 AM
>>>             *Subject:* [tcb] Re: mike everet
>>>
>>>             i meant 205/75r15's 
>>>
>>>             just reread my post, sorry, i'm so used to typing 14
>>>             thanks to being in bay hell
>>>
>>>             
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>             From: i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>             <mailto:i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>             Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet
>>>             Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:07:37 -0500
>>>
>>>             from all my readings it's looking more and more like
>>>             fred will be getting 205/75r15's
>>>
>>>             i was going to do 215/75r15 but i really plan on going
>>>             offroad with this thing and the thought of the tires
>>>             getting into those perfect rear fender lips just kills
>>>             me a bit inside.
>>>
>>>             after discussing with mike through email it was all coil
>>>             overs, he says it rides good, but again, after much
>>>             reading i don't think i'd want to go that route
>>>
>>>             205/75r14's are about 2" bigger than stock, that's what
>>>             hershey now has on him thanks to his new owner, and it
>>>             looks bad ass. so that's what i shall do to fred. 
>>>
>>>             sucks, i wanted to raise him, but there's no good way of
>>>             doing it without getting alot of positive camber out
>>>             back, which woudl make it a bit squirelly on the highways.
>>>
>>>             
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>             Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:00:07 -0500
>>>             From: evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>>>             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>             Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet
>>>
>>>             The tires were a lot of it but the spring plates were
>>>             cranked up quite a bit too.  
>>>
>>>             Too bad you  couldn't do an easy body lift on a bus like
>>>             you can on a bug to get more tire clearance.
>>>
>>>             -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>>>
>>>             
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>             Eric Woodall wrote:
>>>
>>>             ..and Mike's bus isn't that much taller than stock.
>>>             Maybe about 2 inches, which was gained by tires.
>>>
>>>             w.wood wrote:
>>>
>>>                 really?  Wow, I guess all those years of fixing up
>>>                 cut wheel wells didn't teach me much about redux
>>>                 boxes then.     I don't know much about yours and it
>>>                 could have been modified.  If you have 46mm axle
>>>                 nuts and you're planning to run big tires I'd
>>>                 suggest getting a set from a 55-63 bus which have
>>>                 lower gearing for the taller tires you sound like
>>>                 you'll need.  You could always cut the fender wells
>>>                 out and go 60's retro with fiberglass fender
>>>                 flares.  That and a set of air scoops would look
>>>                 totally mod for the new millennium.. ;-)
>>>
>>>                 Also since presumably yours is a 58 you should read
>>>                 the crazy 8's thread on thesamba before you make
>>>                 mods.  You may have something rare there.   I
>>>                 realize under the rust you may be expecting
>>>                 Doubloons but I'd bet just rot..
>>>
>>>                 Then again you could always get a Ford  chassis and
>>>                 put your bus on top of that.  Wait, that's been done
>>>
>>>                 
>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=358633&start=0
>>>                 
>>> <http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=358633&start=0>
>>>
>>>                 But at least you could get parts at the local
>>>                 ArkaCan O'Reilly's or Canada Tire and keep it running.
>>>
>>>                 The point I'm trying to make here Brian is that if
>>>                 you're going to modify a 51 year old bus you should
>>>                 think about the end game and the serviceability.  If
>>>                 it's going to be something for fun then you want
>>>                 contemporary components that are relatively easy to
>>>                 get.  I'll also get a *gasp* from that from a few
>>>                 folks on here on that statement but if you've priced
>>>                 stock 1600 parts lately, the ones that aren't made
>>>                 in Taiwan, then you'll know what I mean. Redux gear
>>>                 parts aren't exactly being made by the bucket full
>>>                 anymore, neither are stub axles for RGBs either.  
>>>                 If you want real fun, try buying Barndoor parts
>>>                 sometime..   So if you're committed to modify, go
>>>                 big or go home.  Don't try to modify 50 year old
>>>                 parts without expecting the requisite problems and
>>>                 pocket book gouge..
>>>
>>>                 To illustrate the problem, after futzing around with
>>>                 a Type 3 this weekend, I'm having it hauled to
>>>                 Doug's for some more work.. and that's for my kid
>>>                 for High School..  Why?  After putting new heads on
>>>                 it, new tubes it wouldn't mate back up to the
>>>                 transaxle.  After re-aligning the clutch 3 times to
>>>                 see if I could get it to seat, I said "f* it."  But
>>>                 then again CB 044 heads, dual 44 IDFs and a 1700
>>>                 Kennedy may be fighting me somewhere but oh well... 
>>>                 It needs some other things too, so might as well
>>>                 whip out the checkbook....
>>>
>>>                 fix the z-bar.. new wheel cylinders.. oh well.
>>>
>>>                 Right now I'm thinking Honda Accords look pretty
>>>                 damn good.   Maybe a Prius.. in Pink.. Naw, he's
>>>                 cadet commander in NJROTC and that'll be against the
>>>                 don't ask don't drive a Prius policy. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Mikes bus he went with some very tall tires and
>>>                 wound up denting the lower portion of his dog legs
>>>                 and his rear rockers.  A lot of the height he gained
>>>                 was by the tires as far as I recall.  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Brian Denning
>>>                 <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>                 <mailto:i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     will, i know i'm new to pre 67, but i'm pretty
>>>                     sure they all have redux. boxes from the factory ;)
>>>                      
>>>                     including both of mine
>>>                      
>>>                     
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>                     Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:15:17 -0400
>>>                     Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet
>>>                     From: evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>>>                     <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>                     To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>                     What???  This sounds like ArklaCan engineering here?
>>>
>>>                     Get a set of redux boxes and tall tires, it'll
>>>                     go up high enough.  THe coil overs from what I
>>>                     recall was in the front end. 
>>>
>>>
>>>                     On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Brian Denning
>>>                     <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>                     <mailto:i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                         the only raising busses thread is the one
>>>                         kevin did and i'm not gonna cut my tranny
>>>                         hanger to do a 2" tranny drop
>>>
>>>
>>>                         
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>                         Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:18:23 -0700
>>>                         From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>                         <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>                         Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet
>>>
>>>                         To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>                         Brian:  I have 2 phone #s for him:  Home
>>>                         214-350-5373, cell 214-837-1379.  Will not
>>>                         guarantee that those or good.  They are
>>>                         rather old and I haven't called him in a
>>>                         long time.  If they do not work you might
>>>                         call Jack Wenk at Black Gold Imports in
>>>                         Arlington and ask him either how Mike did it
>>>                         or how to get in touch with Mike.  Phone #
>>>                         at Black Gold is 817-633-1135 I think.  I do
>>>                         know that Mike did not do any major
>>>                         suspension modifications to his bus.  I
>>>                         think just coil overs and larger tires. 
>>>                         There is also a thread on the samba about
>>>                         raising busses.
>>>                         Sammie
>>>
>>>                         --- On *Mon, 8/3/09, Brian Denning
>>>                         /<i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>                         <mailto:i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                             From: Brian Denning
>>>                             <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>                             <mailto:i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>                             Subject: [tcb] mike everet
>>>                             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>                             <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>                             Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 9:25 AM
>>>
>>>                             anyone have any kind of email or samba
>>>                             name on this guy??? mike hayes suggested
>>>                             i talk to him about how he got his bus
>>>                             raised using coil overs, would like the
>>>                             same effect on the 58, or even better,
>>>                             any of you know how i can get the bus up
>>>                             about an inch without to much drastic
>>>                             work???
>>>                             
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