Sorry, the link didn't work for me. Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: i am pulling these out of my ass. what do ya'll think. one was an idea suggested to me by someone else and the other one is kinda vw twist with the tcb elvis thing. http://www.hsdfi.org/images/tcbideas.jpg _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/