[tcb] Re: brakes
- From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
OK Brian: Back in the OLD days, when you hopped up your bug you had a serious
stopping problem due to the lack of brakes. VWs cousin, the Porsche, was a
2,000-2,500 pound 2-3 times the horsepower sports car. It had very large
diameter aluminum finned brake drums and tons more lining area on the brakes.
So the ultimate stopping power for your VW was to put the P wagen brakes on.
It's a bolt on change over. Simply unbolt the P brakes including backing
plates and bolt onto the VW. Viola, about a 50% increase in braking ability.
You have to understand that the P car for the street was anywhere from a
105mph-120mph car with brakes designed to stop a 2,500 pound onr from those
speeds. Great mod for your early ride bug, or bus either, cept you wouldn't
get that much improvement over the bus brakes.
Why would anyone want to do it now? Only for nostalgia. You can design a
much better brake system for the bug or bus now for whole lots of money less
than a set of P wagen brakes will cost you. Just a set of wheel cylinders will
set you back $500-$600. Another old school solution to the poor brakes on a
bug was to take little nut tranny Type II brakes and install on the rear of a
bug. Remember we are talking about before the big nuts even came out. Another
solution when the Type III came out was to take rear type III and put on the
bug (what I run now on the Baja) and of course when the Ghia came out with
discs there was a great solution for the front, run the Ghia brakes on the
front.
Now I know that's a lot more than you wanted to hear, but we had bugs in the
late 50s early 60s that would run 100+ on the street/highway, and the stock
brakes were no where near up to the task. And one final word: The ultimate
Volks rod of 1960 was an oval with an S90 Porsche engine and brakes. 110mph +
and 0-60 in probably about 8-9 seconds. A real blast blowing off american iron
hot rods.
what's the deal with putting 356 brakes on a bus? they are still drums
right? which means they still get really hot and are harder to stop than
discs right? so why do it.
a curious mind wants to know.
>From: "Peter Albarian"
>Reply-To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [tcb] Re: brakes
>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:59:18 +0000
>
>Sammie,
>I don't know what they are worth, but I would be interested if they are
>still available.
>Peter
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: sammie smith
>Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 17:44:18
>To:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [tcb] brakes
>
>Will: or anyone else; do you have a realistic estimate of the value of a
>set of rear 356B Porsche brakes complete including backing plates except
>for wheel cylinders. Good condition externally with no apparent shoe wear
>on the drum. Also, same question for a set of front 356A brakes complete
>including wheel cylinders.
>
>Bus content: These would go great on a barndoor.
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