[tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
- From: atx <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:16:53 -0800 (PST)
Biology undergrad, but love science. Loads of chemistry in school, start to
finish. Plus modern materials require a keen understanding of biochem.
Very short on ACVW knowledge compared to you guys, but its fun and I'm
learning.
Jeff
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On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:46 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jeff: I know you are a dentist; but what the heck is your undergrad degree in,
molecular biology?
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, atx <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: atx <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 5:22 PM
From G oil to the sperm whale. The sperm whale has additional scientific
importance to us these days. It's cells helped us figure out the molecular
structure of hemoglobin, that oxygen carrying component of our red blood cells.
Will--what do you think of Green motor oil, have you done any research?
Sorry if this can of worms filled your inbox today.
Jeff
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On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:34 PM, "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That's the theory and is based on what Gene Berg did a long time ago. Gene
came out and said he tested it and it didn't cool the engine as well, so it
became biblical. From all of the data I've seen over the past 15 years the
convection argument is mute, both pull heat out of the engine and synthetics
can reduce heat more because they allow less friction in the engine. For me:
1) They lubricate better
2) I can run a thinner weight oil for any given condition without them becoming
as thin as water when at operating temps. I also don't worry about the temps
for the most part. Just drive it.
3) Longer Duration between changes, run a filter. If you're running without a
filter, you need to change the oil more frequently anyway to get rid of the
crap that starts to build
within the oil, so going to Synthetic starts to make less technical vs.
economic sense at that point. I tend to want the best I can get because parts
are not cheap. If you haven't priced or found Okrasa 86mm cranks, you'll know
what I'm talking about. In three of my ACVWs I run bypass filters that really
clean out the gunk as well. The 52 runs synthetic, the 59 and the do as well.
The other part of the argument is that not a lot of folks publish their test
results based on standard testing, AMS as well as Royal Purple both publish
information
http://www.synthetic-motor-oil-change-and-filters.com/amsoil_articles/mineral-petrolium-oil-compared-to-synthetic/
So, YMMV, if you're happy with petro-oil go with it, but synthetics are also
base petro-oils with modified molecular chains.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think it has more to do with the synthetics holding onto the heat.
Dino oils are supposedly better at dissipating heat.
I've been running 10w30 for a long time.
w.wood wrote:
> "generally the aircooled vw
> doesn't like synthetics."
>
> Yes, we all know motor oil hasn't evolved in the past 50 years and
> what sludge was good in the 1930s is now still applicable in terms of
> molecular technology. The troglodytes will still hold onto their
> beliefs. "Yeah run 50W straight.. That works." Nobody of course
> realizes how truly thick straight 50 is nor how much power it robs
> just to pump it through the engine, but again, it was good for grandpa..
>
> Unfortunately all ACVWs are becoming antiques so I guess the antique
> mantra should still be upheld. Does anybody know where a good old
> Sperm Whale is? I need to lubricate my torsion bars.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> If you don't believe me, repost that topic on TheSamba.
> Serious stuff.
> Basically everybody likes what they like, and generally the
> aircooled vw
> doesn't like synthetics.
>
> ATX BUS wrote:
> > A motor oil debate is akin to politics and religion? Wow, that's a
> > serious can of worms.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > *Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 1:03:07 PM
> > *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
> >
> > All I know is the oil debate is long and heated, akin to
> politics and
> > religion.
> >
> > ATX BUS wrote:
> > > Anyone ever ran their aircooled v-dub on Green (biodegradable)
> motor
> > > oil. Sounds like it would be a good idea, easy to do and
> better for
> > > the environment.
> > >
> > > Here is a quick link. The video mirrors the text so you don't
> have to
> > > watch to get the idea. The only question I have is the mechanic
> > > states, "better for your car, better for the environmment." I
> wonder
> > > how he would support the better for you car claim?
> > >
> > >
>
> http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/30910-FOXe-Report-Biodegradable-Motor-Oil
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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