I'm thinking of replacing the spring coils on Freedom. It leans to the left and to the rear. Sure, it's because of all the weight but I bet replacing the springs will significantly help. After all, they're 20 years old and likely fatigued. Van-Cafe (reasonably priced) and Bus Boys (very expensive) both have lowering kits. I'm thinking of going with the Weitec springs from van-cafe: http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/smartlist_1002/lowering_springs.html Van Cafe has a good article on the difference between H&R and Weitec: http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_11_9/vanagon_lowering.html Why would Bus Boys be so much more expensive? They don't give a price but suggest it is a bit lower than $1,200. They almost sound like the same weitec springs offered by van cafe: http://www.bus-boys.com/bbsusp.htm#springs Would lowering the center of gravity improve the ride? Does anyone have experience with any of these kits? Any other thoughts or suggestions? Oddly, Freedom seems to sit higher than Jack's, Ronnie's and Mark's vanagons, which I think are stock height. I don't think Freedom's coils were replaced with syncro springs but who knows. If so, it would sit much more level, right? Unless they were used already. Although the bielstin shocks are relatively new and still good on Freedom, I'll probably replace with Koni shocks. If it's this far apart, might as well. _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008