I don't use anything for sound proofing. I love the sound old VWs make. And besides, from an old race car adage, weight uses horsepower, get rid of the weight. You want a quite ride, sell your bus and go buy an Escalade. --- On Sun, 4/10/11, chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 7:43 AM Naw ,we just like to keep things stired up.don't take anything personal on here,unless it's good. Being a cheap ass I used carpet padding for sound deadening.I know it's bad but works. oleblue ----- Original Message ----- From: kelly dosch To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:00 AM Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally I'm sorry already. It just felt like everybody was intent on shooting me down for a minute there. And thank Jeebis we don't talk religion or politics! --- On Sun, 4/10/11, theresabuckner@xxxxxxx <theresabuckner@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: theresabuckner@xxxxxxx <theresabuckner@xxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 12:41 AM Hey Chuck Looks like we need a list of thoes things that can not be discussed here . Lets see , now we have Poly ticks Re- ligion now lite bulbs terry -----Original Message----- From: kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> To: tcb <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Apr 9, 2011 6:08 pm Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally First of all, I never said it would increase my mileage by 2-3 miles per gallon. I said I would be pleased if it did, but even .2mpg would be fine with me. Lights use gas. That's all there is to it. They don't magically draw energy out of the air. The bottom line is nobody can say conclusively how much difference it would make. It would differ from person to person and car to car. If I never drive at night I suppose it wouldn't save squat. I neither know nor care how this became such a debate. My instruments are much brighter now. It only cost me $6.79 and they save energy. I just thought I would share that with all of you. Sorry if I wasted your time with such useless information. It won't happen again. --- On Sat, 4/9/11, chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 3:36 PM It sure as hell isn't because they can increase mileage 2-3 mpg.I'm sure on a VW bus there are lots of other things that would make a bigger mileage improvement.Driving a toaster isn't contusive to good mileage. oleblue ----- Original Message ----- From: kelly dosch To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally If I'm dreaming then so is every major car company in the world. They are all switching to LEDs from bumper to bumper and it ain't 'cause they're pretty. --- On Sat, 4/9/11, chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 1:34 PM 2-3 mpg you are dreaming. oleblue ----- Original Message ----- From: kelly dosch To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally Incandescent bulbs get too hot to touch. It has to take a substantial amount of energy to create that heat and that's ultimately coming out of the gas tank. Even if I only squeeze 2-3 more miles out of a gallon it's better for the environment and a step in the right direction. Besides, if I ever forget to turn my lights off, the bus will still start in the morning. P.S. Thanks for reminding me. I need to check my tires. 8^) --- On Sat, 4/9/11, chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 11:38 AM All of the bulbs in my Scirocco have been replaced by LEDs except the head lamps..I can't believe that they will make any difference in the fuel mileage.That sounds like sales talk to me.Increasing your tire pressure by two or three psi will probably make more change in your mileage.I have red LEDs for dash lights and I don't really like them that much.Of course I haven't changed to white so they must not be to bad. oleblue ----- Original Message ----- From: kelly dosch To: Texas Coalition of Buses Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 9:09 PM Subject: [tcb] The Best LED Dash Lights, Finally After, possibly, more research than it was worth and pulling my dash apart many times to try several different LEDs, we finally have a winner. These bad boys are twice as bright as all the rest yet still not too bright. They are just right. It is really nice to have everything so well lit for a change! They are at the cool end of the spectrum so the light is snow-white. The best part is they are only $2.44 a pair, no tax and free shipping! I shoulda bought 50 of them and sold them for 5 bucks each in Fredericksburg. 8^) They're from a company in China that I buy stuff from all the time. The prices are great but it's always 4-6 weeks for delivery. Considering their prices it's worth the wait. gigs-ryj3p-2294669467@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx They are polarized, so before you put your dash back together, wait to see which ones you have to turn around first. Next I'll be upgrading my interior lights and my brakes and turn signals. I read it actually makes a significant difference in your gas mileage. We'll see. It probably wont be that significant unless I do the headlights too, but those suckers are over $100 each, so forget that. 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