[tcb] Re: Steering Box Rebuild

  • From: bbauer2000@xxxxxxxxx
  • To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:19:34 -0600

While I agree with Mike on the rebuilt box, the split only cruise sounds lame. 

On Nov 26, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> James!!!!! put in a rebuilt gearbox man up and drive it!!!!!!   Tell me when 
> and we'll cruz some where in both of our buses and pick up chicks!  Well 
> maybe just look at the chicks, I'm not ready to die just yet if June found 
> out.
> We can be all split snobby and get only split buses to cruz with us.
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> On 11/26/2011 12:23 PM, James Dwan wrote:
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>> Bummer...
>> 
>> From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 10:19 AM
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Steering Box Rebuild
>> 
>> I don't think the 15 inch tires are available anymore from Hankook.
>> oleblue
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: James Dwan
>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 10:08 AM
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Steering Box Rebuild
>> 
>> The earlier bus is definitely a different animal. I'm still getting used to 
>> the swing axle. I drove my bay for years on regular car tires being blown 
>> all over the road until I found out about the Hankooks. Unfortunately I 
>> absolutely have to have those B. F. Goodrich Silvertown 6.70-15 Load Range B 
>> 4 ply white walls on this Bus so I'm sure I am a bit more wind driven 
>> because of it but it makes me happy to look at them : )
>> 
>> I had thought of getting some Hankooks for the trip down to Fredericksburg 
>> and switching back to the white walls but I haven't been able to find a set 
>> of wide 5 Bus wheels. Anyone wanna get rid of any just let me know!
>> 
>> My steering box might be fine. This Bus                         was only on 
>> the road for 11 years before it was hidden in a barn for 30 years. I think 
>> we created the leak when we ran the new horn wire.
>> 
>> I'll see if I can drive Robb's around in the wind before I go the rebuild 
>> route. I will try and seal up the leak from the horn wire with a thicker 
>> piece of rubber and if that doesn't work I'll try the Hylomar
>> 
>> From: Steve Chamberlain <steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:08 AM
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Steering Box Rebuild
>> 
>> James, I agree with Will, if you are planning to drive the bus get a rebuilt 
>> one. That being said I replaced my steering box with a WCM rebuilt one that 
>> felt better at first (physiological) but now for every mile down the road I 
>> go 1/2  mile sideways. Everything under the front end is new except the 
>> center pin (that is next project) and Hankook tires but Dennis is right this 
>> time it's still an old bus.
>> Instructions on my 'new' one said to use mixture of 90W gear oil with STP. 
>> Gear oil is too thick but STP thins it down to lubricate without leaking.
>>  
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:35 PM, sammie smith 
>> <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Ok James; I screwed up again.
>>  
>> The early steering box DOES NOT HAVE A PLATE DOWN THERE.  I have the front 
>> of my panel up on jack stands doing brake work, so I looked closely and 
>> pulled the two 10mm head 6mm bolts out.  They only hold a small bracket that 
>> holds the horn cable.  The box is all one part there, unlike the             
>>                           later boxes which have a removeable plate.  BUT, 
>> what I did find is that the horn cable appears to just have a rubber seal of 
>> some sort around the cable that apparently is supposed to keep the gear oil 
>> from leaking out.  Look closely at yours.  It sounds like to me (after 
>> closely looking at mine) that you are leaking the gear oil out from around 
>> the horn cable.  There is basically no other place it could leak out down 
>> there.  If so it looks like you could give it a good coating of something 
>> like permatex #2 and stop the leak.  Or maybe try to cut a small rubber tube 
>> slit down the side and try to push it in around the horn cable and then coat 
>> with permatex.
>>  
>> After closely examining the early steering box on my panel I can see only 3 
>> possible places for a leak:  Around the seal for the main shaft going to the 
>> pitman arm (normal place for a leak), around the horn wire coming out of the 
>> bottom of the box, and around the side plate of the box (on the left side 
>> and bolted to the main body of the box.  I seriously doubt it could have a 
>> leak from #3 but you could try tightening the bolts up to proper torque.
>>  
>> Also:  If you read the stuff on the Samba about gear oil in the box there is 
>> a bunch of stuff about guys just filling it with grease from a grease gun.  
>> I have never filled mine on the panel because it is already full.  But I 
>> stuck a probe in there and it appears to be a really thick grease like a 
>> mixture of chasis grease and 90 weight gear oil.  You might try that also.  
>> The VW manual does call for regular 90 weight gear oil for the steering box.
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Tue, 11/22/11, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [tcb] Steering Box Rebuild
>> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 9:21 AM
>> 
>> Has anyone had experience rebuilding a steering box on a splitty? Mine is 
>> leaking like a sieve.
>> I was told by a local mechanic that there is no literature available on the 
>> size of the seals in the box and the best way to do it would be to take it 
>> apart and source the parts after removing them to get measurements.
>> 
>> Believe it or not this is the last thing I need done on this Bus to drive it 
>> long distance!
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