[tcb] Re: Question about running coach batteries (Gerald are you out there?)

  • From: "Gerald V. Livingston II" <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:47:26 -0500

Dude!

Your Trojan kicks the Hawker's a$$! What's the model number?

The Hawker is 92 AH @ 10 hr or 91 AH @ 8 Hr

I don't see a 5 or 20 hour rating for the Hawker so there can't be a direct comparison. The AH @ xx Hr ratings are decided by the manufacturer and are not a linear function equally calculatable for aall batteries.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_11/3.html

The model number is SBS C11 if you can find more data.

http://www.enersysreservepower.com/documents/US-SBS-RS-002_0205.pdf

http://www.gotbatteries.com/products/slabatteries/PowerSafeSBS.asp



Trey Jung wrote:
G2,

specs on the Trojan are

225 minutes @ 25 amps
57 minutes @ 75 amps

Cranking performance

CCA @0 Degrees F = 665
CA @32 Degrees F = 820

130 AH @ 20 Hr
97 AH @ 5 Hr

Are these close to the Orange Battery, I don't remember the numbers, is there a website I can look them up?

Trey



----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald V. Livingston II" <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Question about running coach batteries (Gerald are you out there?)


Battery manufacturers suggest that if you are going to run multiple batteries that they be rated exactly the same. Otherwise you will have one sucking more of the charging current during a charge cycle and also one providing more power than the other during a discharge cycle. The discharge rates may also be different which makes this condition worse, especially for deep cycle batteries.

Explanation:

Battery A is a 50 amp/hour battery with a nominal discharge rate of 10 amps/hour

Battery B is a 100 amp/hour batter with a nominal discharge rate of 20 amps/hour

The system is currently using 10 amps/hour total.

Battery A provides 5 amps/hour of that.

Battery B provides 5 amps/hour to the system, plus 5 amps/hour to battery A because it can sustain a higher discharge rate.

In this scenario battery B is th only battery actually being discharged until it gets low enough that it no longer provides power to battery A, only to the system. Battery A is barely discharged.

Now, you stop using the system and start up the charger. Battery B has been deeply discharged and pulls most of he charging amperage. Battery A gets only a trickle charge because it is showing as "full" to the charger.

If this cycle repeats every campout battery A will be destroyed because it is not being deeply cycled the way it was designed.

That being said, yes, + to + and - to - using the shortest cables possible. You may want to try running JUST the orange battery for a weekend. Camp in the driveway to test it out. It is about double the capacity of most "normal" deep cycle batteries.

G2

Trey Jung wrote:
Gerald,
I'd like to add the "orange battery" I got from you to my existing Trojan deep cycle battery in the Eurovan to increase my battery time when I am camping like last week w/o AC hookups... Would I just run a jumper cable from the first battery to the 2nd (pos to pos and neg to neg or do I need some special connector).....
 Trey


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