[tcb] Re: Pedigrees..... Republic of Texas?

  • From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:27:55 -0800 (PST)

Yes Dunk there are some of us who have true native Texas blood on here, well at 
least native American blood.  

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, J Duncan <whocanduncan1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: J Duncan <whocanduncan1@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Pedigrees..... Republic of Texas?
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 12:44 PM


Yet another relo immigrant. Is there NO native Texans in this group?
Jus' kiddin'!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is an awesome story. My fraternal grandparents were from Germany
but somehow landed in Pittsburgh. I don't know the story. There are a
lot of Duncans in Texas and I often wonder if any are relatives. It's
too much work trying to find and to what end anyway?


On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:33 PM, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I give my dogs pedigree.
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> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> I reckon you qualify!
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>> --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Biggestdaddyo <biggestdaddyo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> > From: Biggestdaddyo <biggestdaddyo@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: [tcb] Pedigrees..... Republic of Texas?
>> > To: "Texas Coalition Of Buses" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 11:03 AM
>> > Eberling clan arrives in Texas Jan
>> > 12, 1846 (my mother's maiden name)
>> > On September 25, 1845, The entire Eberling family,
>> > consisting of Carl, his wife (Katherine) and three single
>> > sons, plus their two married children and their families
>> > departed from Bremen, Germany bound for the new promised
>> > land.  One of their children, Katherine Elisabeth
>> > (Eberling) Wolfshohl, her husband and two children were also
>> > aboard the same ship.  Her children were Jacobine and
>> > Daniel.  Hence, on board this ship were my
>> > great-great-great maternal grandparents (Carl and Katherine
>> > Eberling).  Also aboard were my great-great maternal
>> > grandparents (August and Katherine Wolfshohl).
>> > Finally, aboard this ship was my great maternal grandmother
>> > (Jacobine Wolfshohl).
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>> > The “Johann Dethardt,” a two-mast Brig (tall ship) was
>> > considered the flagship of the newly formed Verein
>> > fleet.  Its Captain was Theodore Ludering.
>> > Captain Ludering was also a part owner of the “Johann
>> > Dethardt.”  Actually, the Ludering Company owned
>> > one-third of this vessel. This particular ship was one of a
>> > four-vessel fleet that made up the newly formed Verein
>> > fleet.  The other tall-ships were the "Herschel," the
>> > "Ferdinand," and the "Apollo."  The Johann Dethardt was
>> > built in Bremerhaven, Germany by Friedrich Wencke and was
>> > launched on March 2, 1843.  It was described as being a
>> > completely wooden framed ship with a copper lined
>> > bottom.  Its dimensions were 86 feet in length, and 21
>> > feet in width .  Without question, it was a rather
>> > small vessel to be holding approximately 150 people and
>> > their belongings for the trip to Texas.
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>> > After an extremely long journey, the Johann Dethardt
>> > finally docked in Galveston, Texas on January 12,
>> > 1846.   On this, the fourth and final voyage
>> > of the “Johann Dethardt,” a total of 132 passengers (26
>> > families) arrived, most of whom were transported from
>> > Galveston to Indianola, Texas by smaller
>> > schooners.   It appears that the Eberling
>> > family separated in Galveston, taking different routes to
>> > reach their ultimate destination.  We know that Charles
>> > Eberling, his wife Christina, and their two children
>> > (Caroline and Marianne) resided in Galveston until after
>> > 1850.   We also know that Carl and Katherine
>> > Eberling proceeded straight to the New Braunfels area, via
>> > Indianola, because both died in the cholera epidemic in the
>> > summer of 1846.   As for the rest of the
>> > family, we do not know how they traveled to their
>> > destination, and for some of them, we do not even know what
>> > their destination was.  This will be painstakingly
>> > pointed out in the following
>> >  Addendum where each known member of the family is
>> > traced.  In the Addendum, each child of Carl and
>> > Katherine Eberling will be traced from their generation
>> > (second) to the present generation.  The second
>> > generation will be designation G2, the third generation, G3,
>> > and so on.   Naturally, the first generation
>> > of this lineage consists of only Carl and Katherine
>> > Eberling.
>> >
>> >   Personal Comments; It is exalting to know that on
>> > that one 86 foot sail boat, not only did the passengers
>> > depend, but also my entire family lineage.  One could
>> > become very philosophical at this point with a bunch of what
>> > if questions, but that is not the purpose of this
>> > study.
>> >
>> >   Everett Anthony Fey, “New Braunfels: The First
>> > Founders”,  (Eakin Press.  Austin, Texas.),
>> > Volume I.  Describes, in detail, the four ships
>> > involved in the Verein Societies immigration plans for the
>> > German immigrants.
>> >
>> >   Charles W. Kleinecke, "Fisher-Grant and G.E.C.
>> > Forever",  (Charles W. Kleinecke), Lists August
>> > Wolfshohl, wife, and children, along with Carl Eberling,
>> > wife and children, arriving in Galveston aboard the Johann
>> > Dethardt on January 12, 1846.  It should be noted that
>> > the arrival date given by Kleinecke differs from other
>> > sources which put the arrival date in the latter part of
>> > December, 1845.
>> >
>> >   Charles W. Kleinecke, "Fisher-Grant and G.E.C.
>> > Forever",  (Charles W Kleinecke Publishing Co.),
>> > Smaller ships were necessary to transport the immigrants to
>> > Indianola, mainly because of the shallow water near the
>> > mouth of the bay.
>> >
>> >   1850 Federal Census for Galveston County,
>> > Texas.   Charles and his family are shown to
>> > reside in Galveston, Texas where Charles had entered into
>> > the trade of being a cigar maker.
>> >
>> >   Oscar Haas, "History of New Braunfels and Comal
>> > County, Texas",  (The Steck Company, Austin, Texas),
>> > Describes the cholera epidemic of 1845-1846.
>> >
>> >   Author’s information for reader
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