[tcb] Re: New radio= dead battery?
- From: Eric Woodall <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx>
- To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:05:31 -0500
Correct.
On May 31, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That would be wired incorrectly then(except for a Vanagon of course) per
> the radio's spec's. She would need to tap into the fuse block to a switched
> circuit if that is the case. Or if it's a camper then she could put in a
> second isolated aux battery and wire the radio to it.
>
>
> On 5/31/2012 8:38 AM, Eric Woodall wrote:
>>
>> Remember though, this is in a Vanagon.
>> In mine, the radio power was not on the ignition switch path so you had to
>> turn the radio all the way off when you turned the van off.
>> So you can listen to the radio while camping maybe?
>>
>> On May 31, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think in this case her radio is wired incorrectly. When the power wire
>>> connected to the ignition switch is turned off she should not have any
>>> display lights powered on. I have 4 cars with aftermarket radios 2 are
>>> VW's and have never had my batteries go dead in 4-5 days or even a month.
>>> I have let my Bay go as long as 3 months and it started right up. My dodge
>>> truck only gets driven maybe twice a month with no problems.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying it can't happen especially if you have an old battery that
>>> is not up to par but, in this case I think it's the wiring. That radio
>>> should look dead with the ignition off. Unless your really good with a
>>> multimeter and tracing circuits I would disconnect the radio for a few days
>>> and see if the problem goes away. It might be your battery is in bad shape
>>> and a new radio was just too much for it. If you don't drive it much you
>>> can also get a battery tender to keep your battery topped off but, don't
>>> get a Harbor Freight tender you need a smart tender that won't overcharge
>>> your battery.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/30/2012 10:10 PM, sammie smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep Ronnie: You said it; a very small amount of drain to keep the memory
>>>> set. The ones to which I am referring were wired correctly. The problem:
>>>> that "small" drain was enough to discharge the battery over a period of 4
>>>> or 5 days without the cars running. It isn't supposed to happen, but I
>>>> have seen too many of them. It does happen and I think it is a problem
>>>> with the radios requiring so much power that they are useless in a car
>>>> that is not driven often.
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Ronnie Hughes <fracdogii@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Ronnie Hughes <fracdogii@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: New radio= dead battery?
>>>> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 3:45 PM
>>>>
>>>> Most new stereos have two power feeds. One to keep the memory and clock
>>>> running which requires a very small constant voltage, then the ignition
>>>> switch controls the radio on off. Usually you can tell when you have it
>>>> wired wrong because the radio stays on.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know this from experience and a dead battery.
>>>>
>>>> From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:41 PM
>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: New radio= dead battery?
>>>> OK Sarah; have not looked at the other responses yet, but here is probably
>>>> the problem. These "new" radios are always pulling just a bit of power to
>>>> keep the programming in the radio intact. i.e., the internal settings for
>>>> stations that you pre-select, the clock and etc. All the new cars have
>>>> them and they work and do not drain the battery. The juice they should be
>>>> pulling should not drain the battery. HOWEVER, I have lost count of the
>>>> number of VW owners I have encountered that put one of these new
>>>> radios in their VWs and then encounter
>>>> after a few days a dead battery. It happened to me. Could not figure out
>>>> why the battery kept going dead after 4-5 days of non-driving. Now when a
>>>> VW owner tells me of their story my answer is the same. The radio is
>>>> pulling too much juice from your battery to maintain it's settings and is
>>>> draining the battery. It's the radio's fault, not your car or battery.
>>>>
>>>> Cure: Only one I have found is to wire your radio through the ignition
>>>> switch so that it is only getting any power at all when the switch is
>>>> turned on. Problem with this is that every time you turn off the switch
>>>> and kill all power to the radio you lose all your
>>>> settings on your radio that you have preprogrammed.
>>>> Only other solution is to take your radio back to your supplier and
>>>> complain and see if they have an answer. The radio is drawing too
>>>> *(%^&(%*%*(^& power when it is sitting there doing nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 5/30/12, photofreakk@xxxxxxxxx <photofreakk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: photofreakk@xxxxxxxxx <photofreakk@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [tcb] New radio= dead battery?
>>>> To: "Vanagon Mailing List" <vanagon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 10:48 AM
>>>>
>>>> Hey All, I have a question: Why is my new radio always "lit up" even when
>>>> turned off and ignition is off also? And after 2wks (from installation of
>>>> radio), now my battery is dead, even though I started it several times
>>>> including for 10minutes the day it "died"? So if the radio maybe drained
>>>> my battery-Why does my radio still work and have power, even this
>>>> morning?!? I am a newbie and looking @ my Bentley guide, but why doesn't
>>>> it show 1985 wiring? Do I just look at
>>>> the 1983 wiring on 97.20/97.21?? (I
>>>> obviously didn't do the install - I paid the previous
>>>> owner to do it and he had done several but is on the road to Grandcanyon
>>>> as we speak to ask him) It
>>>> is a 1985 Westy vanagon GL 1.9 Thanks, Sarah in Tx 1985 Westy vanagon GL
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