[tcb] Re: James
- From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:05:58 -0700 (PDT)
Different # of teeth on a 6V fly wheel. 6V starter will not mesh with the
teeth on a 12V flywheel. Also, most 6V flywheels have a 180mm clutch as
opposed to 12V which have a 200mm clutch. Exception: 1500 bus engines came
from the factory with a 6V flywheel cut for a 200mm clutch. Since you have a
6V system you have a 6V flywheel with either a 180mm clutch or a 200mm clutch.
--- On Sat, 10/29/11, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: James
To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011, 9:46 AM
Well I'm off to get some taps. I have never used one before and assumed they
were like easy outs which I use often with a drill. Just curious, how is a 6v
flywheel different than a 12v flywheel? I imagine I would have a 12v since some
mental midget bought and installed a 12v tranny in my 6v Bus.
From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: James
He has a 6V flywheel. Won't work. And his bus is 6V. Don't think autos come
in 6V.
--- On Sat, 10/29/11, Lonnie & Bonnie <bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Lonnie & Bonnie <bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: James
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011, 5:32 AM
Have you thought about getting a starter for an automatic transmission? "They
are "self contained", don't use the bushing.
From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 2:19:11 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: James
Well, all you need is a tap that is a good fit to tap whatever hole size you
now have in there.
--- On Fri, 10/28/11, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: James
To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 1:16 PM
Thanks for the detailed information. Evidently I will need to replace the
bushing 2 to 3 times a year. I called Rancho and told them that a guy in Ennis
put a 12v tranny in a 6v bus and I have been using a paper thin bushing to
solve the problem but it obviously disintegrated after less than 6 months. "Oh
yeah, they do that." he said, so I will be using your method until I get around
to taking the tranny out and taking it to a transmission shop to drill the hole
out. I'd rather drill a hole in someone's head down in Ennis but I digress.
The only drill I had that fit the tap has 2 speeds. off and fast. I wallowed
out the inside of the bushing so i will have to try different sized taps to see
if I can get it out. This will probably fix the starting issue since Hammond
Bros. declared my starter "good to go" but the staying running issue will be
the next thing to figure out.
From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:07 AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: James
Don't pull the engine. Here is an easy method to pull the bushing. Get a tap
that is the correct size for the bushing; one that will just screw into the ID
of the bushing. Start the tap and slowly run the tap through the bushing.
Keep going with it. The tap will bottom out on the bell housing. When it
does, continue turning. The tap will then begin to push the bushing out. When
the tap is free of the housing just pull the tap out and there you have it.
I cannot remember which bushing 6V/12V has the smaller/larger ID, but I have a
separate set of tools for each to do the whole job. Larger ID I use a 1/4 pipe
thread tap to remove the bushing. For the smaller I use a 14mm tap. (Thread
cut is irrelevant). To install the new bushing I made a tool for each, the
smaller and larger ID bushing. For the small ID bushing tool I took a piece of
3/4" hardwood dowel rod and turned the end down to approximately 10mm diameter
(you want it just be a slip fit into the ID of the new bushing) and the step
down on the now 10mm end of the dowel is approximately 12 mm long. This allows
you to just slip the new bushing on the step down should be the length of the
bushing and drive the bushing in place. The shoulder on the dowel where you
cut it down will prevent driving the bushing in too far. For the large ID
bushing I did the same but the ID for the bushing is about 15mm diameter.
I may be off a bit on some of my measurements; and I think those two tap sizes
work, but you should get the idea. I haven't used them in a while and am not
positive about which is which. But with these two tools you can remove and
reinstall a starter bushing in about 5 minutes and you only have to remove the
starter. I actually think I could do one complete including removing and
reinstalling the starter in under 10 minutes.
And of course VW had a special tool for removal of the bushing but I just made
my own removal and reinstall tools.
If you have any questions call me if you want 936-569-3542 cell.
And I also refurbish ambulance steps!
--- On Thu, 10/27/11, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: James
To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 9:22 PM
Nope, still won't start. I timed it with the static method. I am suspecting it
was the 12v to 6v bushing. I took the starter out and noticed that the bushing
I put in a few months ago appeared to be gone. I grabbed a 12 to 6 volt
conversion bushing - or so I thought.
Evidently I had a 12 v bushing mixed in with my 12 to 6v bushing drawer and
beat it into place. I figured out my mistake when I tried reinstalling the 6v
starter. I tried removing it with an easy out but it wouldn't catch.
Looks like I'll be dropping the engine on Saturday morning.so I'll beat it out
from the other side. I can't diagnose the running problem until I get it
started so...
From: "bbauer2000@xxxxxxxxx" <bbauer2000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Texas Buses <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:58 PM
Subject: [tcb] James
Did you get your Bus issues figured out? If so what was it?
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