Trey I had the same exact problem with mine 78west 2.0L and I did what you have done to your and it ended up being the starter solenoid . I had a starter shop look at mine and he fixed it for $25 plus he checked everything out , it did the trick Drew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Perring" <perring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006 > The coil in the relay can fail, of course, and an ohm meter will show > this, should it be the case4, but typically, coil failure that will > be due to back EMF, induced by the DC voltage collapse across the > inductance of the relay's coil. Placing a diode across the coil in > reverse polarity will kill any back EMF spikes, minimizing premature > failure of the relay's coil. The diode's voltage rating should be > well above the normal 12 VDC actuation value. > > An equally common failure mode for these relays is due to corrosion > on the contacts. The voltage is so low as to not properly cause a > spark on the make-break cycle of the contacts. A spark would serve to > self clean the contacts (similar to the self cleansing action of > polar relays on old teletype units) > > And yes, the relays will fail. I have had two failures in the past > ten years, I would suppose. > Each failure was of the "intermittent type" created by corroded contacts. > Pull from the socket - replace - crank on. > ======================== > > > At 11:32 9/17/2006, you wrote: > >If the battery doesn't cure your ills , put a meter on > >the relay , they go bad also. > > > >--- Trey Jung <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I cleaned the ground from the transmission this > > > morning. I am going to > > > replace the ground on the battery as it just looks > > > crappy ...... I have > > > another battery I charged overnight and will replace > > > it when I get back from > > > O"reily.... > > > > > > Thanks for everyone's help. > > > > > > I am running a hot start realy that Bob installed 4 > > > years ago.... > > > > > > I'll post as soon as I get these things done today. > > > Trey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Peter Albarian" <pcalbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:09 AM > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006 > > > > > > > > > > Hi Trey, > > > > When I'm having the sorts of problems you are > > > mentioning in my splits, > > > > I've learned over the years that the best, first, > > > and simplest check is > > > > the battery. Typical car parts stores and battery > > > specialists have worthy > > > > load testers and test at no charge; they hope to > > > sell you a battery. They > > > > are good about showing you what the test shows, in > > > my experience, and are > > > > honest. The other suggestion I've heard > > > mentioning is a starter relay. > > > > The advantage to one of these (especially with a 6 > > > volt system) is that > > > > the power doesn't need to go so far (back to front > > > to back) to reach the > > > > starter. Since I believe you are running a Bay, I > > > would start with the > > > > battery check, and then guess your starter > > > solonoid is starting to go bad. > > > > That's my $0.02, > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > BlackBerry service provided by Nextel > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:04:38 > > > > To:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006 > > > > > > > > 10.5 is too low. Probably the battery is failing. > > > The ford solenoid > > > > trick may also resolve the issue but have > > > thebattery tested. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "Trey Jung" <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sent: 9/16/06 7:25 PM > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006 > > > > > > > > I'm all for leaving Friday sometime but I just > > > jumped in it and the bus > > > > would not start.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Last week it did the same thing when I jumped in > > > it to go the anti-meeting > > > > Friday night, I got under it and hit the solenoid > > > as well as the starter > > > > and even turned the engine by hand with a socket > > > and it finally turned > > > > over and started. > > > > > > > > I measure the volts at the battery just now and > > > they are 10.5 volts. ...a > > > > little low but: > > > > > > > > Synptons: > > > > > > > > Radio works, head lights work. Turn the key and > > > nothing (no sound) ...... > > > > I notice that when I turn the radio on and then I > > > then the head lights on, > > > > the radio stops....turn lights over the radio > > > comes on but still no sounds > > > > (like the engine trying to turn over) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Paul Smith > >www.23window.com/thezone > >Why do I have to push "1" for English > >T.C.B. > >H.B.B. > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/443 - Release Date: 9/11/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/443 - Release Date: 9/11/2006