The owner of Bugoholics in Pasadena says there is a really good shop near his that will actually just make a new harness and install it for a fraction of the cost of ordering a new one. (imported labor ) He said they're cheap, fast, and they know what they're doing. Actually, I think he said,"They do good work. They'll getcha in & out and you can probably pay 'em with a case of beer." ________________________________ From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 1:21:51 AM Subject: [tcb] Re: Gremlins The Bays were the first VW bus with integrated all of the turn signal and hi/low beam functions. It could be that the switch is just worn out. My Step Dad's old bus used to have similar issues so we replaced the switch with one from a bone yard. That cleared it up for awhile then finally we replaced the dimmer relay and it fixed everything. The bays were the first to actually get an honest relay in a bus. As all of the other e-mails replying to this indicate, patience is your best friend along with a good multimeter. Also, don't forget that the contacts, even though they'll conduct current, won't do it well. Also, if your wiring has been severely hacked by DPOs or FPOs (are they like APOs?) just get a new harness; it'll save you tons of headaches and frustration. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This is probably a Chuck question since my '68 zebra Bus doesn't have normal wiring and he is familiar with Denis' abnormal wiring. This Bus has glass fuses and everything looks different. > >At times on my driveway or at my mechanic's the horn, brake lights, brites and >low beams and turn signals have worked correctly and then they work on quickie >test drives but then on longer journeys (like to work) they get freaky. Like >the turn signals work but when I turn them off they go off but the green >triangles stay lit. Sometimes I can get these to turn off by putting my >headlights on and clicking them to brite to turn the green triangles off. Or >then sometimes the turn signals just quit. > >Later (maybe hours or days later) after I make it to my destination, I start >to >fiddle. I mess with the fuses up front, I mess with the wires in the back, I >mess with the wiring in the turn signal housing (some of the wires in there >are >on their last leg, one is now unattached, I think it has to do with switching >from low to high beams) and usually I get it back to some state of working. >And >then I test drive, it works well enough. And then I drive to work and it goes >goofy again and stops working. > >So here is my theory, can the turn signal relay work normal sometimes like >after >a period of rest but not work other times because it gets hot over a longer >drive? > >Or do I need to call a priest and have an exorcism? > >When the turn signals, horn and brake lights stop working all at the same time >I >believe that has more to do with a fuse that gets loose. > >My alternator light sometimes goes on when I am stopped at a traffic light >especially if I have my headlights on but when I start moving it does go off. >I >thought perhaps a timing/idle problem but the mechanic worked on that today >and >the green light is coming on again when stopped at traffic lights even without >the headlights on. I don't know if this has anything to do with the turn >signal >gremlins. > >Thanks for reading this babble, I can't believe you made it this far. I like >quirks but this Bus has a few too many. > >Julie > > > -- My Email Moniker http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,1570570433.aspx