[tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:00:00 -0400
So do we have to get Afros now?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Paul Smith <sealingwaxred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> yes we are getting older and the numbers are deminishing,the shows/campout
> that have soul have flourished and car counts are higher each year We need
> to make sure we support out local events,as in old,these can't go on forever
> with age finally catching up with some of us.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:50 PM, "w.wood" < <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I'm not saying it's sad to see it go. On the contrary however the Ennis
> show was a for-profit operation and like any other business if you can't
> keep the customers you'll be out of business. If Warren wouldn't listen to
> the customers then shame on him. Yes, I do know that it's difficult to run
> a show however there's a big difference between Ennis and say your show.
> Yes, the ACVW crowd is diminishing. People are getting older, VWs are
> disappearing. We're now the Model T's folks and every time I take one of
> mine out I always think, "Shit, I can't replace this if I bust it."
>
> Ennis could have survived, first there was the Pro Stock Drag bugs, that
> was fun. How about an old fashioned engine blow? Bikini contest? Wait, I
> know, we're all a bunch of geezers now so they'd need to pay for 20
> ambulances just to cover the show.
>
>
> Maybe it's just time that it has run its course. Your show and Paul's are
> now the big draws in Texas but I do know that you spend a lot of your own
> time and money putting it on and that those that attend do appreciate it.
>
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2011 11:40 AM, "Steve Chamberlain"
> <<steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx><steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx>
> steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I for one am very sad to see Ennis go away, it was the premier show when
> I
> > first got a VW. But as Sammie said it is a simple law of `supply &
> demand'
> > if you don't go and support your hobby it will go away. It is not an easy
> > task to put on a show whether it be a small show or large, for fun or
> profit
> > or anywhere in between. Sometimes it is not the best conditions; Ennis is
> > hot but it's a Volkswagen show. I sweat like a pig driving my bus but
> it's
> > still COOL. It cost a lot of money but I spend more than that on beer
> every
> > weekend (OK, I don't but some of you do). It's a long drive, yeah that's
> the
> > fun of it. Try putting on a show that is a 6 hr drive from home. I don't
> > remember the trips that were easy and went smooth but I'll never forget
> > blowing an engine at exit 13 in Mississippi coming back from Florida (and
> I
> > suspect that Dennis & Chuck won't forget that they had to re-route to
> rescue
> > my bus) or changing the clutch out in the motel parking lot in Colorado.
> > Almost every show I go to I try to encourage others to join me and make a
> > big showing from our group. I agree with most of the complaints about
> Ennis
> > but it's still a VW show and we need all we can get. Sometimes that nasty
> > four letter word (work) gets in my way but we just need to do the best we
> > can and support all VW shows and the sponsors that make them possible.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:01 AM, w.wood <
> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx><evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> >> Warren wouldn't listen. End of story.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Conrad Klahn <
> >> <conradk@xxxxxxx><conradk@xxxxxxx>
> conradk@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The one time I showed up early (8?) at Ennis (after a 3 hour drive),
> all
> >>> the good stuff had already been bought and everybody I asked said,
> "it's
> >>> sold". The second time I showed up, there wasn't squat in the first
> place.
> >>>
> >>> No camping, they charged too much to enter, the parking was too far
> away
> >>> from everything, it gets really hot or too windy on the pavement....
> It's
> >>> just a crappy show location in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> Temple HEB Octoberfest Show was probably the best show I've been to.
> The
> >>> Volkslennium show was fun. My life has never cooperated for me to
> >>> consistently get to any one show. I'm sad I'll miss the Classic this
> year.
> >>> Hopefully its not the last one, but had some fond (and not-so-fond)
> memories
> >>> there if it is. And T&P has been cool and hopefully I can make it with
> a
> >>> bus.
> >>>
> >>> I appreciate the free shows. I put one on myself and it was a lot of
> >>> fun. The Red Shed Tavern in Way-South Austin announced a free VW show
> 5/1
> >>> 2-6PM. <http://redshedtavern.com> <http://redshedtavern.com>
> redshedtavern.com.
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Denis Dodson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I got completely turned off by the Ennis shows years ago. I don’t know
> >>> what specific items irritated me, but I just never felt welcomed. The
> best
> >>> shows are personal affairs. The people who put the shows on are part of
> a
> >>> community and a circle of friends. Sammy is the Nac show, Steve and
> Sharon
> >>> are Fredericksburg, Paul is T@P. I never felt any of that with Ennis.
> >>>
> >>> *From:* <tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> <tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> >>> Behalf Of *Mike Hayes
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:35 PM
> >>> *To:* <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Some times it's hard to make allot of out of town shows. I have to
> choose
> >>> 3-4 out of town shows a year myself and T@P, The Tx Classic and
> >>> Psycoblooie usually top my list.
> >>> I think allot of the blame has to be put on the track, show personal
> and
> >>> the racing people. The last couple of years we have given them
> suggestions
> >>> on making the shows in Ennis better and it wasn't
> >>> until the the last show they tried to make the show part better with
> >>> camping, event's etc. The track only cared about the racing and the
> racing
> >>> folks split themselves between 2 tracks the last show.
> >>> They even scheduled one show the same day as T@P so they missed having
> >>> all the buses there. Plus the track people are just mean and nasty and
> >>> acted like they were doing us a favor taking our money.
> >>> I still managed to make most of them in Ennis.
> >>>
> >>> I think support works both ways and there has not been much either way.
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> On 3/30/2011 5:42 PM, sammie smith wrote:
> >>> As of right now it does not look there will be any more. Last word I
> >>> had was that Warren might be working on something for October but
> doubtful.
> >>>
> >>> When you don't get support for the events they will stop. I probably
> >>> put more miles traveling to VW events on vehicles than just about
> anyone.
> >>> And I see lots of VW people who simply will not go further than their
> home
> >>> town to an event. The last 3 or 4 Ennis events only had about 50 cars
> >>> showing up and entering the show (most from the DFW area) and the last
> event
> >>> only drew about 10 entries for the drags. That will not support an
> event.
> >>> We lost the venue of the greatest swap around and the ability to watch
> VW
> >>> only drags for the most part, simply because people would not support
> the
> >>> event.
> >>>
> >>> I know the Texas people are out there: I saw 150+cars at both the
> >>> Monumental Bug Bash and the Ft Worth Club stampede last year as well as
> 350
> >>> or so at the Texas Classic.
> >>>
> >>> I went to the Manassas Virginia Bug In last year and found a location
> >>> much worse than Ennis with organization that was not nearly as good,
> >>> spectators could not even get in with a car. If you had a VW you could
> >>> enter and drive in. If you didn't have a VW you parked in a field well
> away
> >>> from the show and walked. The drag track and the show facility looked
> as if
> >>> they had been built in 1955 and not improved since. They had a huge
> swap
> >>> and 650 cars entered in the show; as well as a large drag turnout. Go
> >>> figure.
> >>>
> >>> --- On *Wed, 3/30/11, Mike Hayes < <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx><mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> < <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>*
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Mike Hayes < <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> < <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: [tcb] Ennis Shows
> >>> To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 6:47 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I know there few people on the list that are more in the know than me
> so
> >>> I'll ask. Is there anymore shows in Ennis?
> >>> I had heard rumors that because of the poor showing lately there may
> not
> >>> be anymore.
> >>>
> >>> Inquiring minds want to know.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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