[tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
- From: Paul Smith <sealingwaxred@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:51:32 -0500
yes we are getting older and the numbers are deminishing,the shows/campout that
have soul have flourished and car counts are higher each year We need to make
sure we support out local events,as in old,these can't go on forever with age
finally catching up with some of us.
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On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:50 PM, "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm not saying it's sad to see it go. On the contrary however the Ennis show
> was a for-profit operation and like any other business if you can't keep the
> customers you'll be out of business. If Warren wouldn't listen to the
> customers then shame on him. Yes, I do know that it's difficult to run a
> show however there's a big difference between Ennis and say your show. Yes,
> the ACVW crowd is diminishing. People are getting older, VWs are
> disappearing. We're now the Model T's folks and every time I take one of
> mine out I always think, "Shit, I can't replace this if I bust it."
> Ennis could have survived, first there was the Pro Stock Drag bugs, that was
> fun. How about an old fashioned engine blow? Bikini contest? Wait, I know,
> we're all a bunch of geezers now so they'd need to pay for 20 ambulances just
> to cover the show.
>
>
>
> Maybe it's just time that it has run its course. Your show and Paul's are
> now the big draws in Texas but I do know that you spend a lot of your own
> time and money putting it on and that those that attend do appreciate it.
>
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> On Mar 31, 2011 11:40 AM, "Steve Chamberlain" <steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > I for one am very sad to see Ennis go away, it was the premier show when I
> > first got a VW. But as Sammie said it is a simple law of `supply & demand'
> > if you don't go and support your hobby it will go away. It is not an easy
> > task to put on a show whether it be a small show or large, for fun or profit
> > or anywhere in between. Sometimes it is not the best conditions; Ennis is
> > hot but it's a Volkswagen show. I sweat like a pig driving my bus but it's
> > still COOL. It cost a lot of money but I spend more than that on beer every
> > weekend (OK, I don't but some of you do). It's a long drive, yeah that's the
> > fun of it. Try putting on a show that is a 6 hr drive from home. I don't
> > remember the trips that were easy and went smooth but I'll never forget
> > blowing an engine at exit 13 in Mississippi coming back from Florida (and I
> > suspect that Dennis & Chuck won't forget that they had to re-route to rescue
> > my bus) or changing the clutch out in the motel parking lot in Colorado.
> > Almost every show I go to I try to encourage others to join me and make a
> > big showing from our group. I agree with most of the complaints about Ennis
> > but it's still a VW show and we need all we can get. Sometimes that nasty
> > four letter word (work) gets in my way but we just need to do the best we
> > can and support all VW shows and the sponsors that make them possible.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:01 AM, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> >> Warren wouldn't listen. End of story.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Conrad Klahn <conradk@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The one time I showed up early (8?) at Ennis (after a 3 hour drive), all
> >>> the good stuff had already been bought and everybody I asked said, "it's
> >>> sold". The second time I showed up, there wasn't squat in the first place.
> >>>
> >>> No camping, they charged too much to enter, the parking was too far away
> >>> from everything, it gets really hot or too windy on the pavement.... It's
> >>> just a crappy show location in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> Temple HEB Octoberfest Show was probably the best show I've been to. The
> >>> Volkslennium show was fun. My life has never cooperated for me to
> >>> consistently get to any one show. I'm sad I'll miss the Classic this year.
> >>> Hopefully its not the last one, but had some fond (and not-so-fond)
> >>> memories
> >>> there if it is. And T&P has been cool and hopefully I can make it with a
> >>> bus.
> >>>
> >>> I appreciate the free shows. I put one on myself and it was a lot of
> >>> fun. The Red Shed Tavern in Way-South Austin announced a free VW show 5/1
> >>> 2-6PM. redshedtavern.com.
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Denis Dodson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I got completely turned off by the Ennis shows years ago. I don’t know
> >>> what specific items irritated me, but I just never felt welcomed. The best
> >>> shows are personal affairs. The people who put the shows on are part of a
> >>> community and a circle of friends. Sammy is the Nac show, Steve and Sharon
> >>> are Fredericksburg, Paul is T@P. I never felt any of that with Ennis.
> >>>
> >>> *From:* tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> >>> Behalf Of *Mike Hayes
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:35 PM
> >>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Some times it's hard to make allot of out of town shows. I have to choose
> >>> 3-4 out of town shows a year myself and T@P, The Tx Classic and
> >>> Psycoblooie usually top my list.
> >>> I think allot of the blame has to be put on the track, show personal and
> >>> the racing people. The last couple of years we have given them suggestions
> >>> on making the shows in Ennis better and it wasn't
> >>> until the the last show they tried to make the show part better with
> >>> camping, event's etc. The track only cared about the racing and the racing
> >>> folks split themselves between 2 tracks the last show.
> >>> They even scheduled one show the same day as T@P so they missed having
> >>> all the buses there. Plus the track people are just mean and nasty and
> >>> acted like they were doing us a favor taking our money.
> >>> I still managed to make most of them in Ennis.
> >>>
> >>> I think support works both ways and there has not been much either way.
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> On 3/30/2011 5:42 PM, sammie smith wrote:
> >>> As of right now it does not look there will be any more. Last word I
> >>> had was that Warren might be working on something for October but
> >>> doubtful.
> >>>
> >>> When you don't get support for the events they will stop. I probably
> >>> put more miles traveling to VW events on vehicles than just about anyone.
> >>> And I see lots of VW people who simply will not go further than their home
> >>> town to an event. The last 3 or 4 Ennis events only had about 50 cars
> >>> showing up and entering the show (most from the DFW area) and the last
> >>> event
> >>> only drew about 10 entries for the drags. That will not support an event.
> >>> We lost the venue of the greatest swap around and the ability to watch VW
> >>> only drags for the most part, simply because people would not support the
> >>> event.
> >>>
> >>> I know the Texas people are out there: I saw 150+cars at both the
> >>> Monumental Bug Bash and the Ft Worth Club stampede last year as well as
> >>> 350
> >>> or so at the Texas Classic.
> >>>
> >>> I went to the Manassas Virginia Bug In last year and found a location
> >>> much worse than Ennis with organization that was not nearly as good,
> >>> spectators could not even get in with a car. If you had a VW you could
> >>> enter and drive in. If you didn't have a VW you parked in a field well
> >>> away
> >>> from the show and walked. The drag track and the show facility looked as
> >>> if
> >>> they had been built in 1955 and not improved since. They had a huge swap
> >>> and 650 cars entered in the show; as well as a large drag turnout. Go
> >>> figure.
> >>>
> >>> --- On *Wed, 3/30/11, Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>*
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: [tcb] Ennis Shows
> >>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 6:47 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I know there few people on the list that are more in the know than me so
> >>> I'll ask. Is there anymore shows in Ennis?
> >>> I had heard rumors that because of the poor showing lately there may not
> >>> be anymore.
> >>>
> >>> Inquiring minds want to know.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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