[tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:26:50 -0400
If it'd been me I'd have released the hounds!!
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:43 PM, <wuzmop@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I figured they were just trying to ride our cool by letting us in finally.
> :p
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2011 3:03 pm
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
>
> I never did quite understand that "outside the fence" thing especially
> since NHRA events have 100s of motor homes inside the fence. Maybe it was a
> liability thing?
>
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> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, <wuzmop@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> And it wasn't for lack of offers to run these types of events. Several of
>> us have offered ideas and help. Several of us have camped outside the
>> grounds for the past 8 years. It took that long for anybody to notice that,
>> and they finally let people camp inside, but by that time it was too late.
>> And even then, they offered free hot dogs for the campers. Sounded great
>> until they gave you one, but charged you for more. There is always a "but"
>> with that show.
>>
>> Camping last year was a blast, I'm sad to see it go. Even with it's
>> issues, it's one of very few anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2011 2:50 pm
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
>>
>> I'm not saying it's sad to see it go. On the contrary however the Ennis
>> show was a for-profit operation and like any other business if you can't
>> keep the customers you'll be out of business. If Warren wouldn't listen to
>> the customers then shame on him. Yes, I do know that it's difficult to run
>> a show however there's a big difference between Ennis and say your show.
>> Yes, the ACVW crowd is diminishing. People are getting older, VWs are
>> disappearing. We're now the Model T's folks and every time I take one of
>> mine out I always think, "Shit, I can't replace this if I bust it."
>> Ennis could have survived, first there was the Pro Stock Drag bugs, that
>> was fun. How about an old fashioned engine blow? Bikini contest? Wait, I
>> know, we're all a bunch of geezers now so they'd need to pay for 20
>> ambulances just to cover the show.
>>
>> Maybe it's just time that it has run its course. Your show and Paul's
>> are now the big draws in Texas but I do know that you spend a lot of your
>> own time and money putting it on and that those that attend do appreciate
>> it.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2011 11:40 AM, "Steve Chamberlain" <
>> steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I for one am very sad to see Ennis go away, it was the premier show when
>> I
>> > first got a VW. But as Sammie said it is a simple law of `supply &
>> demand'
>> > if you don't go and support your hobby it will go away. It is not an
>> easy
>> > task to put on a show whether it be a small show or large, for fun or
>> profit
>> > or anywhere in between. Sometimes it is not the best conditions; Ennis
>> is
>> > hot but it's a Volkswagen show. I sweat like a pig driving my bus but
>> it's
>> > still COOL. It cost a lot of money but I spend more than that on beer
>> every
>> > weekend (OK, I don't but some of you do). It's a long drive, yeah that's
>> the
>> > fun of it. Try putting on a show that is a 6 hr drive from home. I don't
>> > remember the trips that were easy and went smooth but I'll never forget
>> > blowing an engine at exit 13 in Mississippi coming back from Florida
>> (and I
>> > suspect that Dennis & Chuck won't forget that they had to re-route to
>> rescue
>> > my bus) or changing the clutch out in the motel parking lot in Colorado.
>> > Almost every show I go to I try to encourage others to join me and make
>> a
>> > big showing from our group. I agree with most of the complaints about
>> Ennis
>> > but it's still a VW show and we need all we can get. Sometimes that
>> nasty
>> > four letter word (work) gets in my way but we just need to do the best
>> we
>> > can and support all VW shows and the sponsors that make them possible.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:01 AM, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Warren wouldn't listen. End of story.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Conrad Klahn <conradk@xxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The one time I showed up early (8?) at Ennis (after a 3 hour drive),
>> all
>> >>> the good stuff had already been bought and everybody I asked said,
>> "it's
>> >>> sold". The second time I showed up, there wasn't squat in the first
>> place.
>> >>>
>> >>> No camping, they charged too much to enter, the parking was too far
>> away
>> >>> from everything, it gets really hot or too windy on the pavement....
>> It's
>> >>> just a crappy show location in my opinion.
>> >>>
>> >>> Temple HEB Octoberfest Show was probably the best show I've been to.
>> The
>> >>> Volkslennium show was fun. My life has never cooperated for me to
>> >>> consistently get to any one show. I'm sad I'll miss the Classic this
>> year.
>> >>> Hopefully its not the last one, but had some fond (and not-so-fond)
>> memories
>> >>> there if it is. And T&P has been cool and hopefully I can make it with
>> a
>> >>> bus.
>> >>>
>> >>> I appreciate the free shows. I put one on myself and it was a lot of
>> >>> fun. The Red Shed Tavern in Way-South Austin announced a free VW show
>> 5/1
>> >>> 2-6PM. redshedtavern.com.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Denis Dodson wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I got completely turned off by the Ennis shows years ago. I don’t know
>> >>> what specific items irritated me, but I just never felt welcomed. The
>> best
>> >>> shows are personal affairs. The people who put the shows on are part
>> of a
>> >>> community and a circle of friends. Sammy is the Nac show, Steve and
>> Sharon
>> >>> are Fredericksburg, Paul is T@P. I never felt any of that with Ennis.
>> >>>
>> >>> *From:* tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On
>> >>> Behalf Of *Mike Hayes
>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:35 PM
>> >>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Ennis Shows
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Some times it's hard to make allot of out of town shows. I have to
>> choose
>> >>> 3-4 out of town shows a year myself and T@P, The Tx Classic and
>> >>> Psycoblooie usually top my list.
>> >>> I think allot of the blame has to be put on the track, show personal
>> and
>> >>> the racing people. The last couple of years we have given them
>> suggestions
>> >>> on making the shows in Ennis better and it wasn't
>> >>> until the the last show they tried to make the show part better with
>> >>> camping, event's etc. The track only cared about the racing and the
>> racing
>> >>> folks split themselves between 2 tracks the last show.
>> >>> They even scheduled one show the same day as T@P so they missed
>> having
>> >>> all the buses there. Plus the track people are just mean and nasty and
>> >>> acted like they were doing us a favor taking our money.
>> >>> I still managed to make most of them in Ennis.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think support works both ways and there has not been much either
>> way.
>> >>>
>> >>> .
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/30/2011 5:42 PM, sammie smith wrote:
>> >>> As of right now it does not look there will be any more. Last word I
>> >>> had was that Warren might be working on something for October but
>> doubtful.
>> >>>
>> >>> When you don't get support for the events they will stop. I probably
>> >>> put more miles traveling to VW events on vehicles than just about
>> anyone.
>> >>> And I see lots of VW people who simply will not go further than their
>> home
>> >>> town to an event. The last 3 or 4 Ennis events only had about 50 cars
>> >>> showing up and entering the show (most from the DFW area) and the last
>> event
>> >>> only drew about 10 entries for the drags. That will not support an
>> event.
>> >>> We lost the venue of the greatest swap around and the ability to watch
>> VW
>> >>> only drags for the most part, simply because people would not support
>> the
>> >>> event.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know the Texas people are out there: I saw 150+cars at both the
>> >>> Monumental Bug Bash and the Ft Worth Club stampede last year as well
>> as 350
>> >>> or so at the Texas Classic.
>> >>>
>> >>> I went to the Manassas Virginia Bug In last year and found a location
>> >>> much worse than Ennis with organization that was not nearly as good,
>> >>> spectators could not even get in with a car. If you had a VW you could
>> >>> enter and drive in. If you didn't have a VW you parked in a field well
>> away
>> >>> from the show and walked. The drag track and the show facility looked
>> as if
>> >>> they had been built in 1955 and not improved since. They had a huge
>> swap
>> >>> and 650 cars entered in the show; as well as a large drag turnout. Go
>> >>> figure.
>> >>>
>> >>> --- On *Wed, 3/30/11, Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <
>> mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>*
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> Subject: [tcb] Ennis Shows
>> >>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 6:47 PM
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I know there few people on the list that are more in the know than me
>> so
>> >>> I'll ask. Is there anymore shows in Ennis?
>> >>> I had heard rumors that because of the poor showing lately there may
>> not
>> >>> be anymore.
>> >>>
>> >>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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