[tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition

  • From: "Fred McDonald" <texasbluebus@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:33:20 -0600

When the last time the motor died, the coil was very hot to the touch. (just 
bought the thing a few weeks ago, no name unknown origin)
The fuel filter is empty.
can a failing carburetor prevent the fuel pump from filling the fuel filter? 

From: 71Westy@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:13 AM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition

These symptoms sound just like my issue last year going to T@P. I did 
everything you could imagine and limped back home. I then pulled out my pict 34 
and took out the Pilot jet , got a mirror tapped the jet on the mirror and wow 
a little black spec came out - that was it. Never had anymore problems. (Even 
pumping air into the jet did not help until I tapped the booger on the mirror). 
There is a whole thread about this on the Samba. (The evil Pilot jet )

Trey


----- Original Message -----
From: whocanduncan1@xxxxxxxxx
To: "TCB" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:44:59 AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition

Whew! 

Sent from my BlackBerry®


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From: Eric Woodall <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx> 
Sender: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:33:04 -0600
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ReplyTo: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition


I was talking about the EMPI bus.



On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:31 AM, whocanduncan1@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


  Mike sold his bus!?! The Ranger Danger bus?!?

  No skippy, tell me ain't so! 

  Sent from my BlackBerry®


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  From: Eric Woodall <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx> 
  Sender: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:28:32 -0600
  To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  ReplyTo: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Cc: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition

  If I'm not mistaken that is what prompted Mike to sell that bus.




  On Feb 17, 2011, at 9:37 AM, "Denis Dodson" <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:


    Ooooo, I had not heard that about Everett’s bus. That may be the most evil 
mechanical hard to find thing ever.  In a past Bulli Gras I found him on the 
side of the freeway, really pissed off, installing an electrical fuel pump (he 
was soooo pissed). Was that the same problem?









    From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of theresabuckner@xxxxxxx
    Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:01 AM
    To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition



    Fred     any time the coil gets overly hot , it is going to die very soon . 
coil is a " coiled wire " that magnifies the spark . It gets hot means    a 
short   it will work several times   then burn enough to    separate inside     
      then no workie at all           if it is HOT to the touch , more than 
because the engine is warm .  Then Dennis is    correct        OR like Mike 
Everett    new gas cap    sticker    fell into gas tank and floated over inside 
gas line           He would stop & it floated away       AAAAA the beauty of a 
44 year old machine                        terry



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
    To: tcb <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 8:28 am
    Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition

    Whatever about the fuel, your major clue is the hot coil, IMHO. Should not 
be hot if all was well.



    From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Fred McDonald
    Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:12 AM
    To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition



    1) I can not rule out a fuel problem, after running the bus at idle for 
over 30 min. I drove to the mail box, 400 yards, on the way back the engine 
died would not start and I did notice that the fuel filter was empty, and the 
coil was very hot to touch. After sitting dead for about 10 min. the motor 
starts again and I get back to my drive way.

    2) The bus was running fine, I had driven it 20 to 30 miles away from home 
several times but I notice a decrease in power and the idle was very slow.

    I decided to change the condenser, (10 years old, now understanding what a 
condenser does) and points. 

    From: theresabuckner@xxxxxxx 

    Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:04 PM

    To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition



    Fred  This is late but you know that this is not a fuel problem  ????  
Terry      sounds like trash in the tank ?      .clogged exhaust ?     loose 
wire ?



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Fred McDonald <texasbluebus@xxxxxxxxx>
    To: tcb <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:29 am
    Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition

    After the last bout of trouble with the ignition, (I changed the plugs, 
coil, points, rotor & cap) the motor runs fine but over time I noticed a 
reduction in performance.

    I check the points and their a little burnt.

    I decided to change the condenser & put in a new set of points.

    Changing the condenser is such a pain in the ass.

    Finish the work & take a test drive; the motor is running great.

    I get a few blocks from the house and the motor dies and will not start.

    After some tinkering (not really doing anything) the motor starts up, 
running great, I get a few blocks down the street and the motor dies and will 
not start.

    This is the same crap problem I had before!

    I also question the quality of the parts, the part stores around here only 
carry Mexican or Chinese components.







    From: Fred McDonald 

    Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:12 AM

    To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition



    1) Where is Automotive Machine?

    2) I have a stock 1600 single port motor with an alternator.





    From: theresabuckner@xxxxxxx 

    Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:46 AM

    To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Subject: [tcb] Re: Electronic Ignition



    Fred    you know Automotive Machine sells a set  much cheaper & if you give 
them a few min.    they will put them in your dist. for you if you wish      
terry



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Fred McDonald <texasbluebus@xxxxxxxxx>
    To: tcb <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 10:37 am
    Subject: [tcb] Electronic Ignition

    I want to convert to electronic ignition,

    http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NFD%2D5600%2DBL

    This is the kit I’m considering.

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