I meant in my earlier post that the 1800 stroked engine is one of the least expensive "stroked" engines. It would cost more than the 1776 or the 1835. As to the 2110: I would have a question of reliability. When someone shows me one that will run 75 to 100,000 miles without a tear down I might agree. I know of several 2007s that have gone that far without problems. And of course reliabilty of any of them, including stock, depends tons on who the builder is. I've seen lots of "home-done" rebuilds on stock engines that wouldn't go 5,000 miles. And good engine builders are becoming fewer: we are gonna miss folks like Lyle Cherry. ________________________________ From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, September 27, 2012 6:33:00 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: Displacement spreadsheet I heard the 2110 is one of the best all around engines. You get a fair increase of stroke and bore. On 9/27/2012 6:25 PM, sammie smith wrote: Stroke for torque: Bore for rpms. Bus engine needs torque more than rpms. You are limited in the rpms for a bus by the simple fact that you can't go fast. You need torque to haul the weight and get up hills without rowing with the tranny shift stick. > >The reason 1776 and 1835 engines are popular is because they are a cheap way >to >get cc's. You don't have to do anything but stick on bigger jugs. You want >the >best VW engine you are gonna have to stroke it. And as the saying goes; >horsepower cost money, how many do you want? > >One of the least expensive engines is a 74 X 88 which gives you right at >1800cc >and is a great bug motor. It is my understanding that Lyle used to build a >lot >of these engines for the bug. > > > > ________________________________ From: Gerald Livingston <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Thu, September 27, 2012 5:20:17 PM >Subject: [tcb] Displacement spreadsheet > >.xls format > >If the attachment to the list fails it is at: > >http://texasvolksbus.org/4cylDisplacement.xls > >Common numbers already filled in > >2 free columns/rows for punching in numbers to play with > >Someone correct me if wrong but longer stroke gives more low end torque >for equivalent bore and bigger bore gives more top end for equivalent >stroke. > >Or is it the other way around? > >When I was still going to Jerome and BBB Ronnie F. from Havasu swore by >the 1835 he built for his split. And I saw him haul a$$ up the hill in >Jerome with that bus loaded so heavy it was squatting. @Steve >Chamberlain --- you might want to call him and see about having one >built or see if he's found another formula he likes better for heavy >hauling --- http://www.bustoration.com > >G2 >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5294 - Release Date: 09/27/12