[tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 18:26:50 -0500
The guys name is Assange
On Dec 9, 2010 5:52 PM, "Neil" <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> So, Will...yer sayin' that the cath insertion was a ...wait for it...a
Wiki-Leak?
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> --- On Thu, 12/9/10, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 2:54 PM
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> The photo collage will be on Facebook next week. I hear Wikileaks lost
out on publishing the details.
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> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> All the PEOPLE who helped me, from holding me up when I couldn’t walk, to
all the nurses and technicians, and even now the billing people that work
for the hospital and who are explaining things, are my personal heroes. I
had small problems with 1 CT tech, one nurse (old and had been doing this
since Moses was a baby) and one DR who I saw for two minutes a day. The
PEOPLE were truly wonderful.
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> They all loved my giant bus that friends had signed.
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> Bus content.
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> From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of atx
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:12 PM
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> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
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> Med billing, is very difficult to wrap your arms around. It takes a
trained individual to understand the details. Anybody that doesnt understand
their bill should seek some explanation and guidance. Any inaccuracies
should be questioned.
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> Yes, it can be expensive but I really don't think most Hospitals, Docs,
Nurses, Therapists & etc... are out to get people. As for codes it's just a
# and procedures should represent that code and #'s parameters. Keep in
mind mind that there is no code for compassion so find a place that cares
for you.
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> Jeff
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> On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:35 PM, "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Most of health care is billing and coding and agreements, not patient
care. Every procedure has a code, Medicare creates the codes and the rest
of the industry pays based on the coding practices and those agreements.
Yes, you're a sucker if you pay street prices for a medical procedure and
it's all unfortunately going into the Insurance companies back pockets. I
work in DC, I'm there every week and I can't tell you how many lobbying
groups there are all around me. In the one building I'm in, there's at
least 4 however that are related to Medical Insurance, Social Security and
Medicare.
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> See, when Dennis fell. He needed:
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> 6x code 324 - Daily Hospital ICU
> 6x code 666 - Daily Sponge baths
> 6x code 621 - Daily Meal provided by a "nutritionist."
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> and so on.
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> What's even more amazing is that there's no checks and balances and if you
believe the bill you receive somebody is tracking every pillow fluff and
every bed pan cleaning, constantly. I think 80% of what they put on the
bill is just there to pad it.
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> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:39 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> One more comment Denis, then I will shut up about hospitals and health
care. One of my daughters was in a car wreck; hospital bill was about
$40.000, insurance approved amount was about $3,500, hospital had to write
off the approximate $36,000 difference. Poor slob who has no insurance, if
he pays, will have to pay the full $40,000. Told you before; 99 accountants
can't figure out what is going on with health care costs, billing, or
anything else to do with money and health care.
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> --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 1:23 PM
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> Today I learned that the reason I don’t owe 20% of $83K is that the
insurance companies make deals with the hospitals that mark down the cost.
So they say $83K and the insurance says “No, it is $49K” Then they trim
things here and there, so I pay 20% of $30K. The hospital billing ladies
have been really nice and they seem amazed by it all, even as they are
explaining it. I don’t know who to kill.
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> Further strange. I was 6 days in ICU. The insurance company sent me a
letter that said I was pre-approved for 4. I got billed for 5.
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> Do I have to kill them all?
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> From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of wuzmop@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:33 AM
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
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> Similarly, when Sonja had surgery years ago, we got identical, SEPERATE
bills from both doctors in the medical practice her surgeon practiced in.
Never saw, met, or even knew who the other doctors was.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:29 pm
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
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> My wife just had surgery and I have whats considered good insurance and it
still cost me $2800 out of pocket.
> Last year leading up to the time my father died his bill for the 8 months
prior was 1.8 million. He had really good insurance and he didn't pay
anything. There were doctors billing his insurance that we never saw come
or go.
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> On 12/7/2010 4:10 PM, Denis Dodson wrote:
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> I thought that the $30,000+ total cost for falling off the deck was nuts,
well today I actually spoke to the very nice hospital billing office lady
who corrected me. The actual total bill before insurance was $83,362.67!
That does not include the doctor’s, radiology, ambulance, emergency room or
oxygen bills.
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> Shirley said this is what it cost to put me back on my feet for the next
event, a deer?
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