[tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
- From: singlecabboy <sealingwaxred@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 14:21:09 -0800 (PST)
I ditto the thoughts about the people at the hospital, from the folks at the
emergency kiosk ,to the lady who led me to Denis's room all were very helpful
, even the voice that when I buzzed the buzzer to enter his ward was just doing
her job.She ask my name, then how I knew him ? I told her were are Friends, I
wasn't about to tell her that we were gay lovers and I'm the one who pushed
Dennis off the porch ,but overall everyone was very helpful.
Paul Smith
Transporters@The Point 8
October 7,8 and 9 ,2011
Morgan's Point Resort Texas
--- On Thu, 12/9/10, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 2:54 PM
The photo collage will be on Facebook next week. I hear Wikileaks lost out on
publishing the details.
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
All the PEOPLE who helped me, from holding me up when I couldn’t walk, to all
the nurses and technicians, and even now the billing people that work for the
hospital and who are explaining things, are my personal heroes. I had small
problems with 1 CT tech, one nurse (old and had been doing this since Moses was
a baby) and one DR who I saw for two minutes a day. The PEOPLE were truly
wonderful.
They all loved my giant bus that friends had signed.
Bus content.
From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
atx
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:12 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
Med billing, is very difficult to wrap your arms around. It takes a trained
individual to understand the details. Anybody that doesnt understand their bill
should seek some explanation and guidance. Any inaccuracies should be
questioned.
Yes, it can be expensive but I really don't think most Hospitals, Docs, Nurses,
Therapists & etc... are out to get people. As for codes it's just a # and
procedures should represent that code and #'s parameters. Keep in mind mind
that there is no code for compassion so find a place that cares for you.
Jeff
sent via iPhone
On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:35 PM, "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Most of health care is billing and coding and agreements, not patient care.
Every procedure has a code, Medicare creates the codes and the rest of the
industry pays based on the coding practices and those agreements. Yes, you're
a sucker if you pay street prices for a medical procedure and it's all
unfortunately going into the Insurance companies back pockets. I work in DC,
I'm there every week and I can't tell you how many lobbying groups there are
all around me. In the one building I'm in, there's at least 4 however that are
related to Medical Insurance, Social Security and Medicare.
See, when Dennis fell. He needed:
6x code 324 - Daily Hospital ICU
6x code 666 - Daily Sponge baths
6x code 621 - Daily Meal provided by a "nutritionist."
and so on.
What's even more amazing is that there's no checks and balances and if you
believe the bill you receive somebody is tracking every pillow fluff and every
bed pan cleaning, constantly. I think 80% of what they put on the bill is just
there to pad it.
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:39 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
One more comment Denis, then I will shut up about hospitals and health care.
One of my daughters was in a car wreck; hospital bill was about $40.000,
insurance approved amount was about $3,500, hospital had to write off the
approximate $36,000 difference. Poor slob who has no insurance, if he pays,
will have to pay the full $40,000. Told you before; 99 accountants can't
figure out what is going on with health care costs, billing, or anything else
to do with money and health care.
--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 1:23 PM
Today I learned that the reason I don’t owe 20% of $83K is that the insurance
companies make deals with the hospitals that mark down the cost. So they say
$83K and the insurance says “No, it is $49K” Then they trim things here and
there, so I pay 20% of $30K. The hospital billing ladies have been really nice
and they seem amazed by it all, even as they are explaining it. I don’t know
who to kill.
Further strange. I was 6 days in ICU. The insurance company sent me a letter
that said I was pre-approved for 4. I got billed for 5.
Do I have to kill them all?
From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
wuzmop@xxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:33 AM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
Similarly, when Sonja had surgery years ago, we got identical, SEPERATE bills
from both doctors in the medical practice her surgeon practiced in. Never saw,
met, or even knew who the other doctors was.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:29 pm
Subject: [tcb] Re: Denis' medical bills update.
My wife just had surgery and I have whats considered good insurance and it
still cost me $2800 out of pocket.
Last year leading up to the time my father died his bill for the 8 months prior
was 1.8 million. He had really good insurance and he didn't pay anything.
There were doctors billing his insurance that we never saw come or go.
On 12/7/2010 4:10 PM, Denis Dodson wrote:
I thought that the $30,000+ total cost for falling off the deck was nuts, well
today I actually spoke to the very nice hospital billing office lady who
corrected me. The actual total bill before insurance was $83,362.67! That does
not include the doctor’s, radiology, ambulance, emergency room or oxygen bills.
Shirley said this is what it cost to put me back on my feet for the next event,
a deer?
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