Hmmm! I don't what the problem is. They are adjustable by loosening the screw on the little clamps, set them where you want and then tighten. Your only other real viable option is to go to the elephant ear mirror. To do that you have to change arms, which can be a chore. They are the pin in the hinge and the old ones have to be knocked out. If memory serves the good elephant ears come from WCM. If you don't get the good ones you will be driven nuts by their vibration. --- On Tue, 11/15/11, ATX BUS <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: ATX BUS <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus mirrors To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 3:43 PM I have the small round stock ones. I do like the look, but I can't adjust them at all. So they are just there and non functional. Jeff From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:26 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus mirrors What type of mirror arms do you have? Unless you want to remove the arm: sometimes difficult; you are limited in your choices. Do you now have elephant ears or the small round stock type mirror? --- On Tue, 11/15/11, ATX BUS <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: ATX BUS <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Bus mirrors To: "TCB TCB" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 3:10 PM Time to upgrade my mirrors on the 67. Basically, my mirrors are worthless unless you like to see cars as they pass instead of before. Any good or bad experiences out there with mirrors? I found these http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=bus+mirrors&sort=7&Search1=Search Paul, what kind of mirrors do you have on the Zone? Jeff