[tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.

  • From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:16:45 -0400

Any year rabbit.  You can also get them at auto zone or o reilly but they
are special order.
On Jul 10, 2011 10:05 AM, "James Dwan" <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Where do I find a Rabbit reservoir? Are they still available and
(hopefully not a silly question) what year?
>
> I went through many hurdles to get E-brakes on the '59 with the later
tranny but I'd rather have a third back up. They keep it from rolling in
neutral but I doubt they would do anything but delay impact. Hopefully I can
adjust the tension up front some more because I have the rear shoes dragging
on the drum already.
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> --- On Sat, 7/9/11, singlecabboy <sealingwaxred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> From: singlecabboy <sealingwaxred@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:57 PM
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> This is thew stuff I used when we put the disc brakes on the Zone.I didn't
want to bring it up because you know me sometimes my splainin ain't too good
Lucey.
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> Paul Smith
> Transporters@The Point 8
> October 7,8 and 9 ,2011
> Morgan's Point Resort Texas
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> --- On Sat, 7/9/11, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 6:13 PM
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> You need one of these:
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> http://www.wolfgangint.com/Parts/Master+Cylinder+Adapter+Kit/  <-- This is
what Terry is trying to reproduce.  It's a chunk of aluminum and two bolts
with a boot.
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> They include the instructions with it.
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> You'll need one of each of these:
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http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/1973-Volkswagen-Transporter/Master-Cylinder-Brake-System/Fenco-Reman/_/N-iph7tZ8kn47Z1z13xo2
a 1971-79 master cylinder
> and a vw rabbit brake fluid resevoir.
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> Here's a little article on the subject:
http://www.type2.com/library/brakes/dualmas.htm
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> You'll also need a Tee and a short brake line, both you can get from any
FLAPS.
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> Now, I will tell you that I had a couple of spacers made up to adapt a
Chevy S10 setup into a bus.  I have not installed either of these yet.  Why
did I look into this?  One: The price of the parts.  When Wolfgang and Bus
Boys started having a run on their kits, the prices of the master cylinders
and reservoirs shot up.  Try $120 for just the reservoir alone.  When
Wilson's went out of business, I snagged 4 Rabbit Reservoirs and 5 late Bus
Master Cylinders.. (Sorry, those are spoken for).  Two: The S10 has a bigger
piston that the late bus Master Cylinder.  Even though the late bus M/C is a
good unit it was meant to be used with a Servo, by using a M/C with a bigger
piston diameter, I can get better brake response.  When I get around to it
I'll let you
> know how it turns out.
>
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> For Dual Circuit Brakes, it's a great system and it gives you piece of
mind that if your 50 year old brake system has a problem , you'll at least
be able to stop.
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> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Can you send the details? I would like to have dual circuit, but I was
told it was a PIA.
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> From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of w.wood
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 4:22 PM
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> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.
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> I know a machinist.  He makes parts for me from time to time.  That's how
I did mine.  He made 6 for me.  I still have the drawing I gave him.
> You have to get a late year bay bus master cylinder.  That is the hard
part.
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> On Jul 9, 2011 1:36 PM, "James Dwan" <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I think I need to invest in a dual MC for the '59. Let us know if you get
that deal worked out Terry.
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>> --- On Sat, 7/9/11, theresabuckner@xxxxxxx <theresabuckner@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
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>> From: theresabuckner@xxxxxxx
> <theresabuckner@xxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.
>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 12:51 PM
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>> will                I have 2 of the high dollar spacers     I am working
a deal to get them duplicated      terry
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
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>> To: tcb <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 12:07 pm
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>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.
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>> Yes any bus from 53 to 67
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>> On Jul 9, 2011 9:01 AM, "James Dwan" <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Would this work with an earlier Bus?
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>>> --- On Sat, 7/9/11, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
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>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.
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>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>> Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 8:42 AM
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>>> No you can use parts that work with your configuration.  I use late bus
master cylinders with rabbit reservoirs and a Spacer you can get from via
boys.
> It gets around trying to find '67 m/c .
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>>> On Jul 9, 2011 7:03 AM, "Denis Dodson" <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>> That is what comes in a '63. I have discussed changing to a dual
circuit,
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>>>> but I am told I have to find a different reservoir and I need to weld a
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>>>> bracket..
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>>>> From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
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>>>> Of w.wood
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>>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 PM
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>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Brakes, always the brakes.
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>>>> I'm curious, you're not running a single circuit master cylinder are
you?
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>>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:09 PM, sammie smith <
bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>>> Denis: Now aren't you damn glad we hasseled you till you got an
E-brake.
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>>>> Without the E-brake you would have backed Murray into a tree this time.
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>>>> --- On Fri, 7/8/11, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>> From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
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>>>> Subject: [tcb] Brakes,
> always the brakes.
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>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>> Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 1:46 PM
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>>>> After Danny and Derrick went all though my brakes and even replaced a
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>>>> backing plate and set up the E-brake, I felt so grateful, telling them
that
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>>>> Murray has never had good brakes.
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>>>> So I am turning off Nob Hill Road and onto Beartrap (for you who have
never
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>>>> been to my house, there is a slope like a 100 yard ski jump. If you
just
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>>>> rolled down without
> applying brakes or using the engine to slow you, you
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>>>> would be doing about 125 MPH at the bottom. All right, you might be
doing
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>>>> 45), so I apply my brakes AND THE PEDDLE GOES RIGHT TO THE FLOOR. I had
to
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>>>> use all my skill and abilities learned from years of losing brakes and
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>>>> crashing in to trees and rocks and such to control my speed. I quickly
took
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>>>> off my sandal and used my toes to pull the brake pedal up and was able
to
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>>>> pump up the brakes enough to remain under control.
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>>>> I got to my house and found NO fluid in the reservoir. I filled it with
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>>>> brake fluid and took off for the shop thinking that I won't need
> brakes
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>>>> going uphill and I can put Murray on the lift to see what's the F#*^.
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>>>> Getting to the top of the horrendously steep hill. Right to the very
top, my
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>>>> tires slipped on some loose rocks and Murray stalled. I put on the
brakes,
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>>>> nothing. I am rolling backwards. I am going to be doing 45 MPH
backward. I
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>>>> get it into 1st gear and USE THE EMERGENCY BRAKE! I HAVE ONE NOW!. I
stop
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>>>> rolling. I am at a diagonal now, thinking that, if I lose it, I will
run my
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>>>> ass end into the bushes and, if I am lucky, won't roll over.
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>>>> As all this is happening there is an old woman
> standing on her porch across
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>>>> the street watching this. I feel like yelling out through the open
safari
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>>>> window to call 911 or triple A, or bring me a cinder block. I don't.
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>>>> So, if I put in the clutch so I can start the motor, I start rolling.
The
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>>>> slope is too steep for the E-brake to do more than slow me. I open the
door
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>>>> and, without getting out, put my shoes, a big roll of paper towels and
a
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>>>> book behind the wheel as a chock. I push in the clutch.and it holds! I
start
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>>>> the bus and go. I am exhausted but elated. I look at the old lady and
say,
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>>>> "I about lost it there". She goes inside without comment.
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>>>> I am thinking that I am going to hire a hit man to take out Derrick and
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>>>> Danny, but it turned out to be a split brake line, so.
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>>>> I installed a new brake light switch(unrelated problem) and replaced
the
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>>>> line and bled all around and now I have good brakes.
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