[tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
- From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:59:20 -0700 (PDT)
That's what happens when you get old Chuck. This new fangled stuff is hard to
understand. But Drew is correct on the Oakhill guys. They are probably the
best VW machine work people this side of CA. Clarke Sr. has been grinding VW
crankshafts and supplying VW shops all over the south with reground shafts for
about 40 years. Clarke Jr. is now the #1 machinist in the shop and the primary
tranny builder and Daniel, his brother, is the primary engine builder. But any
machine work you have to be done if Clark Jr can't do it it probably can't be
done. And I don't really like to compliment them too much because they are
getting so much VW work to do that they don't have time to do something for me
when I need it.
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, chuck blue <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: chuck blue <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 7:41 PM
Thanks, Guys
I am going to Oakhill tomorrow.I didn't realise that they did auto machine
work.They can answer all of my questions and help me determine what I really
have.I think I have it figured out but there is so much new stuff to me I'm not
sure.I'm sure they would be happy to sell me parts.
I have to go back to school on some of the later air cooled stuff
----- Original Message -----
From: sammie smith
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
Why don't you talk to the guys at Oakhill for ideas. Also, they are the A #1
VW crank grinders around anywhere. 903-297-3496.
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, chuck blue <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: chuck blue <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 6:07 PM
There is a auto machine shop in Gun barrel.They probably can turn the crank .It
is standard.The engine also has forged rockers, which I think are 1:25:1 ratio.
Is it feasible to use these rockers with a mild street cam?.I think I may go
ahead and cam it while I am in there.
----- Original Message -----
From: chuck blue
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
As near as I can determine it may be a 1641.The crank had a 69 stamped in it
which could be a stroker crank.
----- Original Message -----
From: Denis Dodson
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
So, if you just re-assemble what you have will it be a 1600?
----- Original Message -----
From: chuck blue
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:47 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
I think the crank may be okay.It doesn't look like there has been any or very
little metal transfer.If worse comes to worse I'm sure that the crank can be
turned.I'm going to tackle the crank tomorrow.If that can be salvaged then all
I'm looking at is bearings and gaskets for repair parts .I think I will at
least put a cam and lifters in italso.
A 1905 would be real nice but I don't want to have machine work on the
case.That is not in the repair budget.
In addition to everything else when it was assembled they missed the rear
main dowel pin and punched they bearing.I think that was fixed before the
assembly was completed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Denis Dodson
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:29 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
Well, it was a father son project and then the father died. Maybe the kid
finished it or maybe neither had a clue.
Now you can build a 1905.
----- Original Message -----
From: chuck blue
To: Denis l Dodson
Cc: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
I dissembled the Bluebus engine and found several interesting things.lots of
silicone seal,loose nuts and bolts rod bolt nuts not staked.some sort of after
market rockers with swivel feet.8 dowel crankshaft with a spun rod bearing on
number one cylinder,late style case with early oil pump,old lifters.I think the
p.o. probably installed a high performance cam but I don't know for sure.It
also had bolt on rocker covers.pistons are 86.95s with a sp 0.05 marked on top
of the piston.crankshaft looks like it has had some passage filled.It doesn't
look stock.I really don't know what I have.Judging from the looks of the cam
and lifters I would think the are probably stock with a VW part number on the
cam gear.The rod journal looks like it could be cleaned up.I'm going to use
crocus cloth on it and mic it to see if it might salvageable.The pistons
cylinders look good as does the other internal engine parts.
The crank has been stamped with 69 7 04 and has a casting name ? LEPE on
one side and INPAVI on the other side any help would be appreciated
I was lucky that it happened during a road test rather that on a trip.
I think someone tried to build a nice engine but did a poor job of assembly
because they had no Idea how to put it
together.
.
----- Original Message From: Denis Dodson
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:11 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
I screwed Chuck on the sale of the BlueBus. I worked hard to sell him a good
starter for crumbs. I should have worked hard to sell him junk for a high
price, but I forgot to do that.
----- Original Message -----
From: mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bluebus Blues
You can do it!!! We have faith in you.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "chuck blue" <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I am still planning to be at the point.I have pulled the engine and it is
mounted in a engine stand.I pulled the plugs and there is oil on the #4
sparkplug so I think it blew a piston.If it is a stock size I should have it
covered. I have a complete set of pistons and cylinders.I will know tomorrow.
I drove Bluebus about five miles after it happened so I am pretty sure it's
not a rod or it wouldn't have lasted the five miles.I'll keep you informed.
----- Original Message -----
From: julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx
To: chuck blue
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: Bluebus Blues
Chuck,
Bluebus should be at T@P no matter what. If you can't get him running right in
time, assuming Murray is roadworthy maybe your trailer queen brother-in-law can
haul Murray to your place, then Murray gets kicked off the trailer, and Bluebus
takes the throne and gets to enjoy the trip without doing the work, Sue will
get to do the camping she is looking forward to. It will all work out.
Besides you have to bring me my earring.
Julie
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