It was expensive, hot, no trees, no campout, and doesn't it conflict with Paul's show? I don't know who Warren is. Is he a VW enthusiast? Does he own VWs? As far as I know the Ennis show is put on by a T-shirt company. That is probably wrong, but it goes to illustrate my point about PEOPLE making the show. If Paul moved his show to a gravel pit, I would still choose him over a T-shirt company holding a show in a park. For me to travel 8 hours to a show, I want people to be big glad to see me. Give me a hug. I have never had that happen at Ennis. If Warren wants to bring back the Ennis show he will probably need to make people welcome and be grateful and show his gratitude. He needs to put the date clear of other shows. ----- Original Message ----- From: sammie smith To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: Big shows - aka: The Kupkake Chronicles Well, it is close quarters for the part they designate as the show/show area. There is tons of room if they utilized it correctly but they try to jam all of the show cars into too small of a space. And speaking of Ennis: Why can't we work together to bring this show back to it's former glory. It was neat when there were lots of new parts vendors there selling at reduced prices and you could stock up your needed supplies of parts. Swap is still good as swaps go nowdays. Warren is open to suggestions if you have any and would like to send them to me I will forward. Or you can e-mail or call him directly. Once we had 167 show cars at that show. Now we draw 60 or less. How about a TCB campout and cruise the day before? Dan <ThatVWGuy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I went to Bug Jam twice and it was real close quarters both times. Maybe they didn't use the whole place. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Dodson To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:42 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: Big shows - aka: The Kupkake Chronicles The Pasco County fairgrounds is plenty big. Lots of room. I don't know if it got that size because of it being part of the Bulli Brigade weekend or the other way around, but they have plenty of room. I personally haven't had a problem with the show, except for small complaints. I guess they just think too much of themselves and take it too seriously and it shows. attitude is everything. This can be discussed about the Ennis show, too. For me, it just lost the feel of the participants. If the folks in the cars have no affection for the show and feel a part of it, it holds no attraction to me. Kip and Brian are the Bulli weekend, Sammie is his show, Steve and Sharon are their show, Allan is Boerne, Paul is T@P. I guess the only reason I drive way too far to stand in the cold rain in Galveston is Dennis and Claudia and Dan and Kat. On 11/19/2007 5:47:25 PM, Dan (thatvwguy@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > Yes, there are a lot of details to putting on a big show but it > isn't so hard that it isn't done on a regular basis. Think of all of the > big shows you have been to or read about. How many have people complaining > about the show weeks, months, or years after the show? The CA Classic, > Octo, Bulli brigade, Litchfield, Colorado RMMW/Bandimere show, etc are/were > all big shows and I > don't remember hearing anyone complaining about anything to the point of saying "I'm > never going back." > > I have been to both Eureka (several times) and to Bug Jam. Both are site constrained shows. The major difference is attitude. Eureka folks try to make you feel welcome and the Bug Jam doesn't give a rat's ass how you feel. > > -Dan > > > PS: Eureka really does have a site constraint problem - because the area is so mountainous there aren't many big parking lots or grassy parks in the region. Bug Jam on the other hand could move, and has the money to do so, but chooses not to. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Will Wood [link: mailto:evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:20 PM > Subject: [tcb] Re: OK OK The Kupkake Chronicles > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM