[tcb] Re: $55,000 ~ WARNING !!! RANT FOLLOWS !!!

  • From: Stephen Brannan <ozarkcycleworks@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 06:11:59 -0800 (PST)

Do you ever wonder about those post apocalyptic movies where the heroin drives 
around in a pristine whatever classic car and the people are eating dirt for 
survival?  These are the restored cars pulled out of hibernation that haven't 
been driven for 200+ years.  Where do they get good seals after 200 years of 
darkness?

evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:   You're right, there are always going to 
be speculators where anything is prized. 

In VWs it's no different and I have said it for years.

The last 23 window I sold went for 6000 bucks. It was 100 percent complete and 
had the usual rust issues. It had them when I bought it. I owned it for 10 
years and sold it to a guy in cali who runs a resto/sales biz. He swore up and 
down that he was going to restore it, I'd get pics etc.

One month after he got it, he flipped it. Was I angry, somewhat, but it wasn't 
mine anymore.

For every one person who loves the hobby there are three buttholes who are out 
there for a buck.


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-----Original Message-----
From: a riggs 
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:24:32 
To:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: $55,000 ~ WARNING !!! RANT FOLLOWS !!!

*** WARNING!!! RANT FOLLOWS ***

This has happened to a number of cars as speculators (notice I did not say
"investors") get involved. It has nothing to do with their affection for
the vehicle, the a**holes just want to make money. The more the better. 
They love to create noise, euphoria and confusion which gets people to
leave their senses and pay silly prices. Auction houses of all stripes are
good at this (Why do you think they schmooze and serve free booze to the
bidders?)

They work on the "greater fool theory" - "If I'm fool enough to pay
$40,000 for a VW bus, surely a greater fool than I will pay me $50,000 for
it!" The classic case of this is "tulip mania" in the 1600s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

If you were to graph prices on various brands and especially certain
models, you would see it happen. A few (but a very few) do go up and stay
there, but quit climbing at silly rates. Most fall out of favor and crash
horribly, fading into the night.

The sad part of it is that the vehicles no longer have value as a
driveable piece of transportation but become "collector's items." If you
paid $58,000 for 23 window, would you drive it ANYWHERE knowing a gravel
chip, door ding or bad scratch could cost you $10,000 in value? Heaven
forbid we put the kids in back and stop by a Dairy Queen on the way to the
beach!

GRRRRR#%&!@+$%#...

If you need me, I'll be cruising in my "pristine" '71 panel...

Allan


--- Peter Albarian 
wrote:

> Sammie,
> When you say a 23w should go for around $45k, you need to qualify
> vintage and options. For a '62-'63 vintage I agree with you. Go back
> to big bumpers and bullets and they'll fetch more. Pressed bumper
> deluxes go for closer to $75k and it's hard to say what a BD Deluxe
> would fetch if very well restored; $115k+? When I was at Lennie's shop
> last Summer, he had just sold a '62 23w done at his shop for $58k. A
> somewhat flawed restoration, in the opinion of Kirk and I, of a '58 23w
> had an asking price of over $70k there. They aren't going down, that's
> for sure!
> Peter
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sammie smith 
> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:24:57 
> To:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: $55,000
> 
> Now you guys done let out the secret to Beverly as to how much theswe
> busses are really worth!
> 
> Beverly Williams wrote: Sweet!
> 
> Ronnie Hughes wrote: 
> Now I know what Sammie's retirement plan is - selling buses at
> Barrett-Jackson. 
>   
>
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/carlist/cardetails.asp?In_AuctionID=221&In_LotNumber=1215:
>

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