Hi Paul the new update will be released in October so I'm told. WFA is reduced to £200 until the end of September. I read Steve Nutt's post earlier on and it seems that if you buy WFA now, you will get the upgrade for free. I did install Nokia Maps 2.0 and it was very comprehensive and not very accessible for routes. I then had to reformat my phone to get the original 1.0 version back on to my phone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Thanks Mate, I appreciate that information. I have installed the latest version of Nokia maps. More as a selling point if I do upgrade my phone in the future. Although with the latest Firmware for the N95 and all that the phone offers I think I will put off getting something else for a while. So, is the next update of Way finder Access due then? Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: 15 August 2008 11:29 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Hi Paul. I find the NOkia 1.0 more accessible than the 2.0 version. This version has the itinerary but the sad thing is you can't view this once your in navigation mode. I usually select save in navigation mode and the current road will be in the edit box. This is one way of finding out what road you are on. I use both Nokia maps and Wayfinder Navigator as WFN is accessible for me as I can make out the turnings when looking at the itinerary or turn by turn view. Talks will read the itinerary and the guide view and I'm always updated on remaining distances. Wayfinder Access has a lot more to offer but for now at least until next month I'll be using WFN for my journeys. It hasn't let me down so far. ----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Hi Everyone Great to hear some conversations about Wayfinder, thanks Graham for starting them. I agree that the POIs are a bit limited and Nokia maps does have far more at the moment. But Nokia maps although seeming to be quite comprehensive, is not accessible as far as I can see and you have to pay a monthly or yearly subscription if you want the "navigate to" feature. Frankly, I have never seen such an accessible product of this nature as Wayfinder is that works so well and on something as small as your phone. I use the system for walking routes. I did get totally lost somewhere a couple of months ago and was able to find my way back to a place I knew and get home safely. I walked on various bits of the Birmingham to Worcester canal last week and Wayfinder knew where I was and had all the locks mapped in the Tardebigge lock flight too! It is the longest flight of locks in the UK by the way! I know, I sound like a saddo for knowing that! Anyway to continue. I use Wayfinder on the bus so that I can see where the road name nearest my bus stop is so that I don't miss it. The downside is the lack of POIs but, I have got round this by going online to find the postcode of the place I want to get to and sticking that in the favourites and giving it the name of said place. This works just as well. My wife drives and I have used Wayfinder Access very successfully to give her directions as obviously, Wayfinder calls out "turn left", "turn right", etc, but I can confirm to her what road it is that she needs to go down. All in all, it's all good really and with the addition of more POIs in the future and the existing abilities that Steve highlighted, (I have purchased the European City Guide and it is fantastic), we really do have a good product in my view and well worth its cost. I am quite happy to try to answer questions if I can as to how best to use the system given my totally self-taught knowledge! The only questions I have are: Does Wayfinder work with the assisted GPS feature on the Nokia phones that have that feature, i.e. the N95 which I am using? And: Is there any way to download the Map say, of the UK so that you don't have to always be connected to the mobile internet? For me, it isn't the cost of the internet connection as that is minimal or irrelevant if you have a data package but, Wayfinder won't work without said internet connection unlike products like TomTom for example which do as they have the maps installed on them. Thanks again everyone. Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 15 August 2008 07:33 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Hi Graham, Basically, none of the "specialist" GPS systems for the blind have decent search capabilities. For example, I can enter a house number and post code and be taken there. I can also find a POI and press the dial button and the phone will ring it, without knowing the number. So if I go to a restaurant, I can use it a bit like a yellow pages. Finally, when I go to visit anyone a way away, I can instantly find out the current weather conditions. By the way, you can also add other services like city guides for London, Manchester, Birmingham, etc. It is way ahead of the others in some ways. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: Friday 15 August 2008 07:28 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? steve, could you expand a little on this and say why? do you know of any practical demos or anywhere I can check out a decent up to date review? Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:52 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Hi David, I don't think so in this case. It is just what Nuance and Wayfinder call a Summer Sizzler. I think it is just to get more people on the Wayfinder bandwagon, and I applaud it. I think that in many ways, despite the restrictions, Wayfinder Access is now the best out there. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David W Wood Sent: Friday 15 August 2008 00:06 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Hi: Discounts often indicate a better or cheaper product upcoming. Steve - what is in the Wayfinder pipeline? 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Hi Graham, The only down side to waiting, is that you may lose out on the current discount. The price is usually 260 pounds, but until the end of September, there is a 20 ercent discount. You may as well take advantage if you can, since you will get the upgrade for free no doubt. All the best Steve ________________________________ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: Thursday 14 August 2008 21:59 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Hi Sunil. Thanks fror this. I will wait then I think before lashing out £200 or so on this particular package and see what happens in the next release. Cheers Graham----- Original Message -----
From: Sunil <mailto:bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:04 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Yes they are. The database is extremely disappointing in every category. I bet if you stand outside the local tube and search for the nearest station it won't show up. But over on the Wayfinder list the word is that there'll be a significant improvement in the number of PoIs in the database in the next release. ________________________________ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 14 August 2008 19:55 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] wayfinder, am I doing something wrong? Hi all. I live in Stepney Green east London and can find very few points of interest around when trying out wayfinder. Am I doing something wrong? I seem to find far less places than I did with even Nokia Maps, and TomTom I know finds more too. All I get though is KFC and McDonalds. Are these points of interest really so limited? Regards Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3356 (20080814) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 13/08/2008 16:14 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 13/08/2008 16:14 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3357 (20080814) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 15/08/2008 05:58 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comVersion: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 15/08/2008 05:58