With vodfaone it al depends on who you get. Do they have any knowledge about vodafone products? do they have any knowledge about Talks? and in my experience some of them aren't even aware they are there to serve customers, like when I went to a vodafone store and was stuck between a customer service person and his friend behind me talking about whether they should book a holiday together. I'm afraid i couldn't return to vodafone if it was the last phone company on earth. It's another case of a company making dicisions on high and not communicating with the front line staff. Brian