Hi Yvonne
hi pete
Sounds like you are having fun :-)
When pressing Talks plus soft key 2 it did previously say memory
card;
this feedback was removed in Talks 5 because it was deemed
unnecessary and
potentially confusing to users - 90% of the time if a user has a
memory
card in the phone they will know so they don't need to hear that
each time
they do Talks plus soft key2 to hear the signal/battery
strength..... So
that is why you no longer hear this being spoken now you have Talks
5
installed.
thanks for that i thought for some reason i had managed to make a
default
called phone memory instead of the memory card being the default
if this was removed from 5 then that is the reason it no longer says
memory card when pressing menu plus foft key 2 and not because of
something i had done or not done
Talks might now read icons that it previously did not, such as
Wireless
Lan icons on the N86, this is because the Icon identification
system in
Talks was greatly improved in Talks 5 - a feature that most people
perhaps
would not notice or maybe take for granted but it added a great
deal of
added accessibility.
yes in 4 it never said as far as i know wireless lan available
if this is because i am in range of a wireless lan location then
it must
be next door or something because i don't have wireless set up here
i also notice that 5 when i press options says audio settings
where it did
not in 4
This icon is telling you that a Wireless lan connection is
available to
you.... An icon that helps you know if you are in range of a
connection or
that you are connected etc..... (I do not have a N86 but this is
how most
Nokia's work) the more you use and learn what Talks can do the
more you
will be like....oooooohhhh I didn't know it did that too :-)
with regards to your slider call settings, this should not have been
changed by Talks; as I have not used a N86 I'm not sure if this is
just a
quirk or a bug in the phone and perhaps some others might be able to
clarify on this? But look in menu>settings and look for the
settings for
the slider controls perhaps a N86 user can advise for where to
locate the
setting (for the N97 slider controls are under a item called phone
management in the settings menu) you may even have some bugs
left on
the device from the previous user; personally I would reset the
whole
phone if buying second hand just in case the previous owner
inadvertently
left something on there but this is not something I would
recommend if you
are not experienced and you do not have sighted assistance available
the slider location i have found and it is set to the following
requirements
1 answer incoming calls on opening
2 end active call when closing
3 lock keypad when closed
i tried this out on a bt fixed line phone and when i closed the
slider the
bt landline handset went to a dead key tone
i also tried it today on another mobile handset with a different
number
and it terminated the call but i also have my home calls routed
through
vonage an internet calls provider
when i closed the slider the call was not terminated but continued
to ring
on the home handset when i opened the slider
i wonder if this is because the calls are routed through the
internet
unlike fixed line and mobile
Regarding memory, I believe the N86 has a C: drive, E: Drive and F:
drive - C: being phone memory, E: being Mass storage (8GB) and F:
being
your memory card (16GB probably) - the C: drive is usually quite
small but
the difference between Talks 4 and 5 in size is quite unnoticeable
so if
this is the only thing you have changed it sounds odd..... Perhaps
you
have things on the C: drive that you don't need and it needs a clean
out....
you are quite correct in that it does have 3 drives c e and f and
that i
do indeed have a 16 gig card installed giving me 24 gig
however do you know how much memory the c phone one has?
i probably have lots of things on there of which i probably will
never
even use so i would like to remove them but need to be careful in
case
they are files for the software or perhaps shared files or something
and a
I'm basing this on a guess of the location.... But go to
menu>applications>office>file manager and you hopefully will see
your
drives and the size available, press key1 when you are on the C:
drive and
choose memory and you should be able to get a list of what kind of
items
on the phone are taking up what memory..... Just to give you an
idea if
you are low on memory.
If you are low then you need to consider removing anything you do
not
need.... But that is something that may be good to discuss with
Hussein if
you can as he has had a N86 so could go through with you to know
what
items should and should not be installed for that particular model
Hope this helps
Cheers
Pete
thanks
Yvonne
----- Original Message ----- From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:23 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: telling what version
Hi Yvonne
Sounds like you are having fun :-)
When pressing Talks plus soft key 2 it did previously say memory
card;
this feedback was removed in Talks 5 because it was deemed
unnecessary and
potentially confusing to users - 90% of the time if a user has a
memory
card in the phone they will know so they don't need to hear that
each time
they do Talks plus soft key2 to hear the signal/battery
strength..... So
that is why you no longer hear this being spoken now you have Talks
5
installed.
Talks might now read icons that it previously did not, such as
Wireless
Lan icons on the N86, this is because the Icon identification
system in
Talks was greatly improved in Talks 5 - a feature that most people
perhaps
would not notice or maybe take for granted but it added a great
deal of
added accessibility.
This icon is telling you that a Wireless lan connection is
available to
you.... An icon that helps you know if you are in range of a
connection or
that you are connected etc..... (I do not have a N86 but this is
how most
Nokia's work) the more you use and learn what Talks can do the
more you
will be like....oooooohhhh I didn't know it did that too :-)
with regards to your slider call settings, this should not have been
changed by Talks; as I have not used a N86 I'm not sure if this is
just a
quirk or a bug in the phone and perhaps some others might be able to
clarify on this? But look in menu>settings and look for the
settings for
the slider controls perhaps a N86 user can advise for where to
locate the
setting (for the N97 slider controls are under a item called phone
management in the settings menu) you may even have some bugs
left on
the device from the previous user; personally I would reset the
whole
phone if buying second hand just in case the previous owner
inadvertently
left something on there but this is not something I would
recommend if you
are not experienced and you do not have sighted assistance available
Regarding memory, I believe the N86 has a C: drive, E: Drive and F:
drive - C: being phone memory, E: being Mass storage (8GB) and F:
being
your memory card (16GB probably) - the C: drive is usually quite
small but
the difference between Talks 4 and 5 in size is quite unnoticeable
so if
this is the only thing you have changed it sounds odd..... Perhaps
you
have things on the C: drive that you don't need and it needs a clean
out....
I'm basing this on a guess of the location.... But go to
menu>applications>office>file manager and you hopefully will see
your
drives and the size available, press key1 when you are on the C:
drive and
choose memory and you should be able to get a list of what kind of
items
on the phone are taking up what memory..... Just to give you an
idea if
you are low on memory.
If you are low then you need to consider removing anything you do
not
need.... But that is something that may be good to discuss with
Hussein if
you can as he has had a N86 so could go through with you to know
what
items should and should not be installed for that particular model
Hope this helps
Cheers
Pete
-original message-
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: telling what version
From: "yvonne oliver" <yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 27/08/2010 1:22 am
hi
thank you for reply and the offer to chat in person
i may well take this offer up see how we go until the weekend
it says wireless lan available when i press the talks key followed
by soft
key 2
it use to say memory card
but now it says wireless lan available
i have no idea what is going on here
i have noticed 2 other problems
1 when starting up talks says memory low remove some data from
c phone
memory
then it clicks for a while then when i press the end call button i
get
talks
speaking
when it said phone memory i never got it saying memory low or
phone memory
so i need to get it back to as it was
2 i have the slider command set to end calls when slider is closed
but for
some reason the call remains active
the ringing of the phone used to call the mobile goes quiet but
when i
open
the slider the ringing tone on the phone used for calling the mobile
continues ringing
again like above up until i installed 5 the slider would end the
call and
the phone used to call the mobile went dead
any idea how i can put this right?
and of course how can i remove stuff from c when i have no idea
what is on
drive c
it is supposed to be 8 gig i cant of filled it already
but that was before installing 5
now when i start the phone it says about
Yvonne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hussein Patwa"
<talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:38 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: telling what version
Hi,
I'm a little unsure what you mean by the reader saying "phone
memory".
It
doesn't do this when the phone starts up, and to my knowledge
never has.
If you mean the location where the application is installed, you
would
have to uninstall the application and then reinstall it. However,
honestly the space saving will not be that noticeable compared to
say, if
you were talking about QuickOffice.
As for the difference between versions 4 and 5, 5 supports the mail
client
on the N86, and also of course is the first version to support
touch
screen phones, which won't of course apply to the N86. V5 ships
with
updated vocaliser voices which do sound better and have less
pronounciation errors for the corresponding dialects than the v521
vocaliser voices shipped with Talks versions prior to v5.
For additional information, you may try referring to the release
notes
for
the v5 release which may well be floating around somewhere.
Sorry I can't be of more help, but I'm also in the midst of
dealing with
a
bit of a crisis here myself. However, if there's something
straightforward I can answer for now, I'll be only too glad to
help.
Also, an offer I can make you if it's of any help at all,
although I'm
sure others on here will have time to help, but if you'd like me
to go
over the uninstall and reinstall process in person, I'd be more
than
happy
for you to call me over the weekend. It's quite straightforward,
but I'm
happy to explain it in more detail if you wish. Just making that
offer
in
case it's of any use.
All the best,
H.
On Fri, August 27, 2010 12:44 am, yvonne oliver wrote:
hello
with the help of Eleanor i now have talks 5
however there is a problem
a few days ago i asked about how i could get talks to say phone
memory
instead of memory card when switching the handset on
since installing 5 the handset now says phone memory
not sure i want this option now because each time i turn on the
phone i
get low memory remove some things then after a few nasty sounding
crackles
i finally get to the reading voice
how can i go back to where the reader says memory card after
start up?
also 1 other thing
what is the difference in versions 4 and 5
in other words what does 5 have that 4 doesn't
thank you
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:25 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: telling what version
Well not a problem at all. Another way to go to Talks is via
the
Menu,
then Applications and then Talks but the other way is quicker.
Elelanor
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:22 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: telling what version
hi
i know but i just for the life of me could not remember
these things happen when you lose your sight late in life
so used to being fully sighted
so trying to remember all things by using screen readers is
difficult
so you will have to bear with me
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:18 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: telling what version
Go in to Talks by pressing Talks key followed by long
press of
soft
key one. Then Options by pressing soft key one. Arrow up from
the
bottom until you hear About and select that. It will tell you. I
asked you before this past week and you told me you followed my
instructions and looked it up and it was Talks 4.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks uk
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:57 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] telling what version
hi
can someone remind me on how to find out what version of
talks i
currently have installed?
thank you
Yvonne
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