[talks-uk] Re: n86
- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:44:35 +0100
What a fiddley phone then having to go and take the back off to remove the
memory card. though I guess it is great protection for the card.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Stone
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:29 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
It says memory card because there is a memory card in the phone. If you take
the memory card out it will stop saying it.
Cheers
Alex
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of yvonne oliver
Sent: 24 August 2010 14:51
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
hello Eleanor
it's not a short key i want to assign for this but just so that talks says
phone memory when i press talks and soft key 2 to get to where it says network,
date, battery level rather than it saying memory card
i will keep your suggestions for future use
however in the meantime my main queries are
1 how to i get to phone memory announcement when pressing talks and soft key
2
2 where can i find my contacts
and tell if they are on the phone memory or the sc card without dissembling
and reassembling the handset
but my questions are getting answered and soon all will be asked for this
handset
thanks
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
Yvonne not Graham Lol! but anyway here goes. You are asking about setting
a short-cut or hot key to get to the memory card and your choice is soft key 2.
You will possibly have to set the standby screen to basic to do this but again
I cannot be sure with the N86. If you are able to go to Tools or control Panel
and settings, general, personalisation home screen and basic and then press
soft key option key and select open. You then have 2 items in a list. One
says home screen basic and the other say shortcut keys. You can choose the
shortkcut keys by selecting that and then I esxpect you have set shortcut keys
in the past so you probably know how that works. If you do not then arrow
until you hear something that indicates soft key 2 and it will say what the
current shortcut is on that key. In my case it is camera. Then if you want to
change it press select and you will get all the options in a list. you will
then go through until you come to the memory card and once on that press soft
key one to confirm that you want the soft key two to be the shortcut key to the
memory card. You must realise that this is just roughoy the case as I do not
have an N86 but it should give you a rough guide as to what to do.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:42 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
hello graham
thank you for email
i did indeed purchase it second hand not sure what buy and sell group but
it may of been the one i believe you own
correct me if i am wrong in thinking you own one of the buy and sell sites
the beyo reader i am told is not all that good anyway
i have heard from other sources that it won't work properly
i am currently awaiting a reply from the previous owner about talks
versions
he is going to contact Steve regarding the latest version he purchased
all in all i think the n86 is a very good handset and the keys being
raised are acceptable for both blind people and those with dexterity
not sure on a few things yet though but as i ask questions on here they
are getting answered
Eleanor has solved 2 or 3 of my queries already and i only got the
handset yesterday
however perhaps you can tell me how to i tell if i am in the phone memory
or the sd card memory?
and how do i switch from one to the other
i want to be in the phone memory when i press talks and the soft key 2
i am also informed that sight and sound or whoever they are do a better
version of the beyo reader well so it should be better at £650
many thanks
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Longly
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:17 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
Hi Yvonne
Steve Nutt will confirm this but I believe that the beyo CBS reader is
tied to the sim card so if you've bought this secondhand with the phone it
won't work with your sim card as it was licensed for the previous owner's sim
and I don't think you can transfer it, you will have to buy a new copy. I
think beyo is good for the money but the downside of it compared to the
kurzweil reader and text scout is that you can't save what you have scanned. I
am sure Steve will put me right if any of this is incorrect. Cheers! Graham
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of yvonne oliver
Sent: 24 August 2010 12:41
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
hello Eleanor
the reader is £75 so you are correct
the reason i cant get to the sim and memory cards is because the back
cover is different in fixing to other handsets
all other handsets the back cover had a small button of which when
pressed in allows the cover to slide down or up depending on removing or
placing back on
this one has a small groove under the bottom edge of the casing and i
have no finger nails
if i could find something that i can use in place of nails then i will
be able to add remove or change the sim and memory cards
why can't nokia leave things as they are
why do they have to keep changing things around with each handset they
release
the charging unit has been changed as well
first of it was a 3.5 mill jack plug this was changed to a 2.5 one and
now it's of the u s b style type
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
You are right phone switch is a more effecient means of transferring
data from one phone to another. I would have thought that someone with an N86
could tell you how to get to phone switch. Phone switch does indeed use the
Bluetooth mechanism for transferring data. I would have also thought you
should be able to remove a memory card without sighted assistance but again I
could be wrong. On all my phones I have no difficulty in removing a memory
card but maybe you have dexterity problems. Someone should again be able to
tell you the procedure for removing a memory card from the N86. Finally the
OCR is Bayos or something like that, I have not got the spelling correct. It
is a software package which can now be used on Mobile phones with Talks and
costs in the region of £75 but again I can stand corrected.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts.
no i used the old fashioned blue tooth and the long winded way of
opening text message and move to contacts list
not sure what phone switch is
but from what i can make out it is a quicker way of transferring
data
One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to take out
the memory card and see if they are there on the phone.
for this i will need sighted assistance
i can do that myself on my e90 but this handset is not so easy
You might also like to take out your SIM card to check for
certain in case they are on the SIM.
again this would require sighted assistance but i will certainly
see about those last two suggestions thank you.
Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. That is
Optical Character Recognition which blind people use when scanning in a
document (print) to read with a screen reader.
i got an email from the previous owner he said this is something
used to scan things like menu's in restaurants etcetera but he did not get on
with it
mind you i have not found anyone yet that has
i also heard that this software is not all that reliable
he did inform me that sight and sound do a version for £650
not able to afford that unless i can get a grant or funding
so once again thank you for your help
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. One way
of knowing if they are on the memory card is to take out the memory card and
see if they are there on the phone. You might also like to take out your SIM
card to check for certain in case they are on the SIM. Are you talking about
OCR technology? I am not sure. That is Optical Character Recognition which
blind people use when scanning in a document (print) to read with a screen
reader.
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] n86
hi last night i copied my contacts from my e90 to the n86
however i may of copied them to the memory card instead of the
phone memory
how do i tell where they are if they are on the memory card or
the phone memory and how do i switch from one to the other?
and of course if they are on the memory card how would i
transfer them to the phone memory?
and what is a o b c reader or whatever it is called what is it
and what does it do
Yvonne
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