[talks-uk] Re: n86
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:07:31 +0100
Hi Graham,
Scout is 625 pounds, and we sell it. The down side is it requires an
Internet connection as a server does all the scanning. But the upside is it
is the most accurate of all the readers by a long way and gives you more
control than KNFB of the scanning process.
All the best
Steve
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Graham Longly
Sent: Wednesday 25 August 2010 10:25
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
Hi Yvonne
I do indeed own and run recycle it as well as this list and one other. I
think beyo is quite acceptable for the money., there are two other OCR
packages for mobiles, text scout which is around £575 and the kurzweil
personal reader which is £695, both sold by a range of suppliers including
sight and sound. Cheers! Graham
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of yvonne oliver
Sent: 24 August 2010 13:42
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
hello graham
thank you for email
i did indeed purchase it second hand not sure what buy and sell group but it
may of been the one i believe you own
correct me if i am wrong in thinking you own one of the buy and sell sites
the beyo reader i am told is not all that good anyway
i have heard from other sources that it won't work properly
i am currently awaiting a reply from the previous owner about talks versions
he is going to contact Steve regarding the latest version he purchased
all in all i think the n86 is a very good handset and the keys being raised
are acceptable for both blind people and those with dexterity
not sure on a few things yet though but as i ask questions on here they are
getting answered
Eleanor has solved 2 or 3 of my queries already and i only got the handset
yesterday
however perhaps you can tell me how to i tell if i am in the phone memory or
the sd card memory?
and how do i switch from one to the other
i want to be in the phone memory when i press talks and the soft key 2
i am also informed that sight and sound or whoever they are do a better
version of the beyo reader well so it should be better at £650
many thanks
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Longly <mailto:longly@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:17 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
Hi Yvonne
Steve Nutt will confirm this but I believe that the beyo CBS reader is tied
to the sim card so if you've bought this secondhand with the phone it won't
work with your sim card as it was licensed for the previous owner's sim and
I don't think you can transfer it, you will have to buy a new copy. I think
beyo is good for the money but the downside of it compared to the kurzweil
reader and text scout is that you can't save what you have scanned. I am
sure Steve will put me right if any of this is incorrect. Cheers! Graham
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of yvonne oliver
Sent: 24 August 2010 12:41
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
hello Eleanor
the reader is £75 so you are correct
the reason i cant get to the sim and memory cards is because the back cover
is different in fixing to other handsets
all other handsets the back cover had a small button of which when pressed
in allows the cover to slide down or up depending on removing or placing
back on
this one has a small groove under the bottom edge of the casing and i have
no finger nails
if i could find something that i can use in place of nails then i will be
able to add remove or change the sim and memory cards
why can't nokia leave things as they are
why do they have to keep changing things around with each handset they
release
the charging unit has been changed as well
first of it was a 3.5 mill jack plug this was changed to a 2.5 one and now
it's of the u s b style type
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
You are right phone switch is a more effecient means of transferring data
from one phone to another. I would have thought that someone with an N86
could tell you how to get to phone switch. Phone switch does indeed use the
Bluetooth mechanism for transferring data. I would have also thought you
should be able to remove a memory card without sighted assistance but again
I could be wrong. On all my phones I have no difficulty in removing a
memory card but maybe you have dexterity problems. Someone should again be
able to tell you the procedure for removing a memory card from the N86.
Finally the OCR is Bayos or something like that, I have not got the spelling
correct. It is a software package which can now be used on Mobile phones
with Talks and costs in the region of £75 but again I can stand corrected.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver <mailto:yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts.
no i used the old fashioned blue tooth and the long winded way of opening
text message and move to contacts list
not sure what phone switch is
but from what i can make out it is a quicker way of transferring data
One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to take out the
memory card and see if they are there on the phone.
for this i will need sighted assistance
i can do that myself on my e90 but this handset is not so easy
You might also like to take out your SIM card to check for certain in case
they are on the SIM.
again this would require sighted assistance but i will certainly see about
those last two suggestions thank you.
Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. That is Optical
Character Recognition which blind people use when scanning in a document
(print) to read with a screen reader.
i got an email from the previous owner he said this is something used to
scan things like menu's in restaurants etcetera but he did not get on with
it
mind you i have not found anyone yet that has
i also heard that this software is not all that reliable
he did inform me that sight and sound do a version for £650
not able to afford that unless i can get a grant or funding
so once again thank you for your help
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. One way of knowing
if they are on the memory card is to take out the memory card and see if
they are there on the phone. You might also like to take out your SIM card
to check for certain in case they are on the SIM. Are you talking about OCR
technology? I am not sure. That is Optical Character Recognition which
blind people use when scanning in a document (print) to read with a screen
reader.
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver <mailto:yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] n86
hi last night i copied my contacts from my e90 to the n86
however i may of copied them to the memory card instead of the phone memory
how do i tell where they are if they are on the memory card or the phone
memory and how do i switch from one to the other?
and of course if they are on the memory card how would i transfer them to
the phone memory?
and what is a o b c reader or whatever it is called what is it and what does
it do
Yvonne
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