Off topic of course, but just to reply to your message. I have trained several people using JAWS who had already been trained by the RNIB and the level of training received is way below the standard I set for myself Too much of a coincidence in my opinion, but maybe I'm just bias towards the poor old RNIB.
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www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Hi Barbara, Not wishing to defend the RNIB in any way, but isn't that the trainer herself that is at fault perhaps? OK, the RNIB should have kicked her sorry ass, as it were, but I would have thought that was an individual thing. I could employ someone, who never turned up. OK, if I didn't chase it up, it is my fault as a company, but I am not sure that is entirely RNIB's fault. Anyway, this is really off topic for Talks, RNIB bashing, I would have thought. All the best Steve All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: Thursday 13 November 2008 16:30 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks I will tell you one story and then I promose no more bagging the RNIB! I know someone in N.I. who was receiving some JAWS training from RNIB. For several months the trainer just didn't show up on the days she was supposed to. when she finally did show her face, her excuse was that she fell out with her boyfriend and didn't feel like delivering the training! I don't think I need to comment on that, says all that needs to be said about RNIB and what they think of the people they are supposed to be assisting. Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
Here here Barbra. I am not from NI but from South of Ireland. Have heard
all about RNIB in NI OK. This e-mail from London though. Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksYes I am Eleanor and the RNIB are even more useless over here than over there so to speak, assuming you are on the Mainland. But another list as others have said, if only slagging off the RNIB wasn't such fun. Perhaps the topic should have a list al of its own! Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksI am smiling at that Barbra. Are you in NI? Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksclassic Neil! That made me laugh after having picked myself off the floor from reading Eleanor's comment about RNIB being the oracle! Oh Eleanor, keep them coming! Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Eleanor, RNIB - Really Not Interested in Blind. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks Users Host Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs with instant product activation and an online store supporting British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. www.talknav.net +44 161 277 7997 service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 13 November 2008 11:47 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Well I have always seen (for want of a better word) the RNIB as the Auricle but now I am changing my mind. Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksHi Eleanor Don't ever be surprised that the RNIB know very little! Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksNeil Thank you for that. I am a bit fed up at present, want to buy the Wayfinder, got one price from RNIB, another at Sight Village from the Company and another from Computer Room Services. Now I am not complaining about any of these Agents for the product but the cheapest price came at Sight Village here in London and they did not say it was for the day only. I thought I had time to go away and think about it. Now I am not going to purchase it. In fact it was only when I asked Steve or someone on the Access list a question about upgrading Talks that a person at RNIB who had told me I could not upgrade then said it was news to her that I could upgrade from Vodafone Talks to Premium Talks on another phone for £50.00. That from RNIB Hi-Tech! Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Eleanor, That's correct, whilst Talks continues to work, minus the ability to move the license again, WFA can only function on one handset at a time. But they don't charge to move from phone to phone. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks Users Host Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs with instant product activation and an online store supporting British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. www.talknav.net +44 161 277 7997 service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 13 November 2008 10:01 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks No deactivation of Talks there Scot from what Steve said. He explained that very well about upgrading from phone A to B and B to C. Have a look at his reply there again. Steve has told me though that Wayfinder would deactivate from one phone to another if put on a second phone. Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxx>To: "Talks List Talks List" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksThanks mate. So wen moving from B to C does talks stay on B or deactivate? Thanks Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 13/11/2008 09:38 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Hi Scott, As many times as you like, but you can only use one phone per upgrade. In other words, you buy Phone A, you then use Phone A to upgrade to Phone B. You can still use Phone B to upgrade to Phone C, but you can't use PhoneA to upgrade to Phone C. So in other words, if you sell on Phone A, the new customer can't use it for an upgrade, if you have done so. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott C Sent: Thursday 13 November 2008 09:37 To: Talks List Talks List Subject: [talks-uk] moving talks Hi folks. How many times can talks be moved from one phone to another? I know it's £50 to move it over from one to another, but how many times can I? Thanks Scott.-- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 650 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message No virus found in this incoming message. 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