[talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
- From: "ali kazi" <prince_ali@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:01:49 +0200
Yeah, it's a good phone. Is there anywhere you can still buy it? Nokia
and o2 seem to not have it, yet it is still better than some of the
newer nokia phones in my opinion.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:33:17 +0100, "Eleanor Burke"
<eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Yes I think N96 is excellent. What I also like about it is that I have
> some
> vision and though I cannot read the text, I can set to have white text on
> black background and then my highlight bar can be one of a few different
> colours, blue, yellow or magenta.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ali kazi" <prince_ali@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 3:49 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>
>
> > That's interesting. I was searching for phones online, and the only
> > decent phone without a qwerty keyboard or a touchscreen I could find was
> > the N96. It has 16gb of internal memory and wifi and all the awesome
> > stuff.
> >
> > I miss my E66, brilliant phone. Too bad it got stolen.
> > On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:52:38 +0100, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
> > <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> >> Elinor,
> >>
> >> why would there be updates to a phone that was discontinued years ago,
> >> that phone has to be at least 4 years old now. although not old to you
> >> and I, it is a dinosaur in terms of technology.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Neil Barnfather
> >>
> >> Talks List Administrator
> >> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> >>
> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> >>
> >> URL: - www.talknav.com
> >> e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3 Jun 2011, at 09:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:
> >>
> >> I have an N96 which I love. However, Neil's comment is interesting as I
> >> find that there do not appear to be recent firmware updates.
> >>
> >> Eleanor
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
> >> <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:49 AM
> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
> >>
> >>
> >> Ali,
> >>
> >> the N96 is much older than the devices I mentioned, and you've got very
> >> little chance of getting an N96 these days.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Neil Barnfather
> >>
> >> Talks List Administrator
> >> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> >>
> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> >>
> >> URL: - www.talknav.com
> >> e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3 Jun 2011, at 02:19, ali kazi wrote:
> >>
> >> Neil,
> >>
> >> Isn't the N96 just as good as the phones you mentioned?
> >> Seriously, the letters and numbers just confuse me, I have absolutely no
> >> idea which series comes first. There is no chronology, my e66 is better
> >> than my n70 but the n95/6 seem to be better than the E66.
> >>
> >> Ali
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:35:58 +0100, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
> >> <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> >> > the E5 has WiFi the C5 does not.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Neil Barnfather
> >> >
> >> > Talks List Administrator
> >> > Twitter @neilbarnfather
> >> >
> >> > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> >> > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> >> >
> >> > URL: - www.talknav.com
> >> > e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 1 Jun 2011, at 18:48, Mike Cassidy wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Neil,
> >> >
> >> > Which of your listed phones has wi-fi?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks and regards,
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
> >> > Sent: 31 May 2011 20:35
> >> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
> >> >
> >> > Graham,
> >> >
> >> > touch devices are not necessarily cheaper to make, its been a good few
> >> > years
> >> > now since I was in the phone building business, but have to believe
> >> > that
> >> > a
> >> > touch sensitive display module costs at least double to triple the
> >> > costs
> >> > of
> >> > a button based module.
> >> >
> >> > Nokia still make the following exclusively button devices, the Nokia
> >> > C5,
> >> > E5,
> >> > N86 and E72 / E73.
> >> >
> >> > you can also go for a half way house with something like the N97 / N97
> >> > Mini,
> >> > C6, E7 for totally brand new and more besides.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone with an existing TAlks license should really consider these
> >> > devices
> >> > over the purely touch devices from Apple and Google until accessibility
> >> > in
> >> > the form of Talks and Mobile Speak has truly made it to these devices.
> >> >
> >> > a good high end Nokia, like those outlined above I'd expect to last you
> >> > at
> >> > least 2 years, if not a little longer.
> >> >
> >> > with regards to the iPod Touch not having the network data function,
> >> > this
> >> > is
> >> > the only reason I have an iPhone rather than an iPod Touch, but being
> >> > honest, what I should have done is bought the iPod Touch and then
> >> > simply
> >> > enabled the sharing of my WiFi on my Nokia, which costs no more at all,
> >> > unlike the expensive business of tethering with an iPHone etc, and then
> >> > just
> >> > bought something like Joiku so that my iPod Touch could get data.
> >> >
> >> > this is my current recommendation to people, keep a Nokia for Talks and
> >> > then
> >> > get an iPod Touch / iPad for consumption.
> >> >
> >> > don't forget you can always get data products on your Nokia like e-mail
> >> > etc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Neil Barnfather
> >> >
> >> > Talks List Administrator
> >> > Twitter @neilbarnfather
> >> >
> >> > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> >> > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> >> >
> >> > URL: - www.talknav.com
> >> > e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 31 May 2011, at 08:13, Graham Page wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Neil.
> >> >
> >> > I agree with what you say entirely, though if you go for an IPod you
> >> > will
> >> > not of course be able to access much while you are out and about. In
> >> > the
> >> > UK
> >> > at least, wifi connectivity is patchy to say the least!
> >> >
> >> > Bringing things back more on topic, My big question is what non-touch
> >> > screen
> >> > devices are still available for use with TALKS? Is it really worth
> >> > anyone
> >> > investing in Talks at the moment if new devices are likely to dry up in
> >> > the
> >> > next few months. There are of course low end devices from companies
> >> > like
> >> > Nokia that do as much as most people would want to do but they cannot
> >> > run
> >> > TALKS. The truth is that manufacturers are bullying society into
> >> > believing
> >> > that touch screen is always better since touch screen devices are much
> >> > cheaper to make.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Graham
> >> > Graham Page
> >> > Mobile: 07753 607980
> >> > Fax: 0870 706 2773
> >> > Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Skype: gabriel_mcbird
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
> >> > Sent: 30 May 2011 22:31
> >> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
> >> >
> >> > Paul,
> >> >
> >> > firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really tasked
> >> > with
> >> > helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a none Talks
> >> > device.
> >> >
> >> > however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view
> >> > for
> >> > you.
> >> >
> >> > The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you
> >> > are
> >> > accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your objective
> >> > is
> >> > to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes.
> >> >
> >> > let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our needs
> >> > when
> >> > you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading e-mail, reading
> >> > text
> >> > messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts.
> >> >
> >> > where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data
> >> > back
> >> > into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and irritating.
> >> >
> >> > this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any touch
> >> > only
> >> > device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, so to speak,
> >> > iPad
> >> > and iPod Touch etc.
> >> >
> >> > My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text
> >> > messaging
> >> > one
> >> > issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch only device is
> >> > never
> >> > going to be that great as a device for making and receiving calls and
> >> > typing
> >> > out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that
> >> > you
> >> > can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity
> >> > and
> >> > weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those
> >> > issues
> >> > already exists.
> >> >
> >> > Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet
> >> > surfing,
> >> > depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or inputting to,
> >> > and
> >> > app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple devices do well.
> >> >
> >> > My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an iPhone
> >> > without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making it into a
> >> > phone
> >> > should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no rental and will
> >> > give
> >> > you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not
> >> > compromise
> >> > your phone call / texting ability.
> >> >
> >> > I hope that this helps in some way.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Neil Barnfather
> >> >
> >> > Talks List Administrator
> >> > Twitter @neilbarnfather
> >> >
> >> > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> >> > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> >> >
> >> > URL: - www.talknav.com
> >> > e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june
> >> > 2009, I
> >> >
> >> > feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier to
> >> > navigate round the internet.
> >> >
> >> > I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined
> >> > keyborad
> >> > or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone.
> >> >
> >> > regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I
> >> > could
> >> > get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as I
> >> > wouldn't
> >> > have thought so.
> >> >
> >> > I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon.
> >> >
> >> > I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I
> >> > could
> >> > do
> >> >
> >> > with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to buy
> >> > one.
> >> >
> >> > Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > paul.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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