it is indeed but it is not always clear or published when and to which versions a new upgrade will apply. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Wilson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: beta versions, was Re: Re: Nokia N91 Well Graham I was told by Steve Nutt that upgrading my version 2 to the new version to be released will only cost £50.00, so hope this is the case. Barbara Wilson Email: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mobile: 07917710779 Donate to Guide Dogs at: www.justgiving.com/cyder ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Page To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: [talks-uk] beta versions, was Re: Re: Nokia N91 the jaws ones are generally private betas until near the end. this means that Freedom Scientific distributes beta versions of the software to people who agree to use it, along with appropriate antidisclosure agreements, gagging orders and threats of death if anyone discusses new features that may come along. the public beta generally appears between 2 weeks and a month before final release. anyone can download and use this. It would be good to know where to get the public TALKS beta from when it appears. It would also be nice to know whether or not a new version will be free or an upgrade. I do think that now a bigger company owns the product, it would be nice to have more of a structure and, for example, be able to buy software maintenance agreements. Regards Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Wilson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia N91 No, I had no idea what a Public Beta was. Where is it likely to be published? I'd often heard people talking about Betas in relation to JAWS but never knew until now what they were. Thanks for solving the mystery! Barbara Wilson Email: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mobile: 07917710779 Donate to Guide Dogs at: www.justgiving.com/cyder ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Hyde-Dryden To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:10 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia N91 Hi Babs, a public beta version is one which has been posted to a site where anyone from the public can download it and trial it. Generally it is pre released before the main release candidate in order that people can check out its features and the vendor can resolve any found bugs before the main release. Hope that helps. Have you seen a public beta of talx then? Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 17 September 2006 21:24 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia N91 Hi Steve Sorry if I'm showing my ignorance, but what is a "Public Beta" version? Barbara Wilson Email: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mobile: 07917710779 Donate to Guide Dogs at: www.justgiving.com/cyder ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Hyde-Dryden To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:53 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia N91 Hi Babs, Well, basically, it's like this. Yes, the N91 will be compatible with talks but the new version which isn't currently available. There will be a public beta available of this within the next week or so I am told. The N80 I understand will work with this version as well. It's because they are next generation symbian OS phones. I'll tell ya what I did see though which was very nbice. The new N73 is smaller than the N70, I'm almost sure of that and I seem to remember that it will be talks compatible. My advice would be to hold off for a couple of weeks. Cheers. Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 17 September 2006 18:43 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Nokia N91 I have been asked by a friend and I just wanted to double check on here before giving information that might be wrong. The Nokia N91 is compatible with TALKS? And works well? (I think someone posted a message to that affect on here recently). And the Nokia N80 is not at present but hopefully is soon to be? Hopefully someone can confirm what I think is the case as my friend is interested in both these phones and doesn't want to get the wrong one. Barbara Wilson Email: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mobile: 07917710779 Donate to Guide Dogs at: www.justgiving.com/cyder