[talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access discontinued
- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:21:43 -0000
Graham,
People seem to have this idea that everything is about to stop, Wayfinder is
owned by the World's largest telecommunications giant, they are continuing
with GPS sat-nav products, thus the license with Tele Atlas and Nav Tech who
provide most of the maps will remain active and current.
In terms of the maps and POI data bases used by Access, as Vodafone are
continuing to use Way finder's systems to support new upcoming 360 products,
and Wayfinder Navigator is remaining a developed product, the maps and data
bases used by Access will remain up to date. This is because Way finder's
products share the same back end servers.
Therefore if they update servers with data for Navigator and other 360
products, Access to will benefit.
Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered
direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
www.talknav.com
www.wayfinderaccess.com
Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 13 January 2010 00:00
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access discontinued
also is the price of this program reduced as there is no further
development?
Generally I would say that anyone would have to be plane mad to buy a
program where all development has been discontinued. It is also reasonable
to have concerns about ongoing future support. On the other hand, there is
really no alternative. there is the free Loadstone GPS which does work with
TALKS but it is free and while quite a lot has been done to gather points of
interest together this is no substitute really for detailed maps. Maps and
presumably map data will also become out of date too over time. How long
does the contract with the map supplier last that ensures the maps are kept
up to date?
Regards
Graham
Graham Page
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <r2gl@xxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:19 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access discontinued
Hi
Neil & Steve, how many licences are still available? It's all a bit
bizzar as modern software is sold electronically, thus virtual, so a
number isn't defined. The developers would have generated a code
generation system that would exceed projected sales.
Gena
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 19:02 +0000, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Hi Hussein,
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> A word of sanity spoken there. Well done!
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> Let?s not all panic yet, just because it is not being developed, it
> remains supported at the moment, until licences are gone.
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> All the best
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> Steve
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> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hussein Patwa
> Sent: Tuesday 12 January 2010 18:59
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access discontinued
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> Hi,
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> Thinking with my business hat on, do TalkNav have any software
> development experience to date? Are there any products it has
> developed in house (software) that have successfully been brought to
> market? Just curious.
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> Also, it is important to note that there are many factors that affect
> business decisions. It's a maze of influences, priorities, stakes,
> etc. Without hearing from both sides of the story, it's probably best
> to hold judgement for now.
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> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
> TalkNav
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access discontinued
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> Eleanor,
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> We originally were negotiating to purchase Access from the highest
> person in Vodafone Group, who had complete charge of their online
> product range. There was no-one higher to dispute or argue this with.
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> The decision is made, whilst we might have a fight to have if they?d
> just cancelled Access, the fact that they wrote the lot off makes that
> harder.
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> It doesn?t excuse not allowing us to take it on, but there is more to
> this than any of us really know, of that I?m sure of.
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> Neil Barnfather
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> TalkNav
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> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
> delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>
>
>
> www.talknav.com
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> www.wayfinderaccess.com
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> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
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> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
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> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 12 January 2010 12:20
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: WayFinder Access discontinued
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> You have had a lot of success yourself with Vodafone Paul, why don't
> you test the water and try and speak to someone in Management>
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:25 AM
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> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: WayFinder Access discontinued
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> Not good at all.
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> It tells us all we need to know right now.
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> So, a response from individuals and collectively now would be
> good.
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> ______________________________________________________________
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil
> Jarvis
> Sent: 12 January 2010 05:58
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] WayFinder Access discontinued
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> I imagine existing customers will be able to use the existing
> service, but this is now on the WayFinder website
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> http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3985
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> Dear Customer,
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> Thank you for visiting Wayfinder and your interest in our
> products. We appreciate your interest, as our success is built
> upon developing services and products
> that are valuable to you, the customer.
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> We have been working hard on this for many years and due to
> the high quality of our products, we have now been acquired by
> Vodafone to make and develop
> products for Vodafone Internet Services.
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> It is because of our new status as part of the Vodafone Group
> we will not be further developing Wayfinder products, beyond
> their current version.
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> We understand that you may want to continue to use or purchase
> a Wayfinder product and so we will continue to sell Wayfinder
> Navigator Online through our
> mobile shop. Additional products such as Traffic Information
> and Safety Cameras as well as Maploader will still be
> available. However, there will no longer
> be any further developments for these products. We will still
> provide Wayfinder Navigator Online as we are confident it is a
> reliable and robust product,
> on all platforms. All other products that have been
> discontinued are listed below.
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> The good news is if you are a Vodafone customer, you will find
> that Navigation is now built in to the New Vodafone 360
> handsets and will soon be available
> for download or be pre-loaded on a large variety of handsets
> across Europe. To find out more about Vodafone 360 and its
> benefits visit
> www.vodafone360.com
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> Thank you for your support and custom whether you are a new
> customer or an existing customer. We look forward to guiding
> you on the Vodafone network in
> the near future.
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> Yours truly,
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> The Wayfinder team.
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> These products are now no longer available:
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> - Wayfinder Navigator with Maps preloaded
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> - Wayfinder SpeedAlert
> - Wayfinder Earth
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> - City Guides
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> - Wayfinder Navigator for Internet Tablet
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> - Wayfinder Access
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> These products are still available but no longer being
> developed or maintained:
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> - Wayfinder Navigator Online
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> - Wayfinder Maploader
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