Hi Ibrahim, That?s me. I hate the ?human-sounding? voiuces. The level of pronunciation leave a lot to be desired as well. Take Serena when you lock the keypad and she says Keypad Loked, not Locked. Eloquence on the other hand, gets about 95 percent of common words right and is much easier to listen to at higher speeds. All the best Steve _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: Tuesday 6 October 2009 15:07 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Hi Steve. Oh yes, I agree with you, but if your reading a long stretch of text or even just a long text or email you've received, Vocalizer and especially Sangita or Caron are pleasant alternatives to the robotic droll of eloquence, but as you say, you lose the responsiveness if you want the more human sounding voice. This is all down to personal taste though, some people I know will use only eloquence and nothing else. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Hi Ibrahim, But they are a lot less responsive and they stutter. The best phone I have heard the Vocalisers on is the N86, but even then it is like swimming through treacle compared to Eloquence, especially at high speeds. All the best Steve _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: Tuesday 6 October 2009 14:34 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Hi. Oh, definatly, the vocalizer voices are better. I use them with Bluetooth headsets and they're much more naturally sounding than eloquence for reading. The real speak voices are so low quality I just don't bother with them. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren Harris <mailto:darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice that's why i pulled them all off. thinking about it what about with the hands free kits do those voices work better? -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: 06 October 2009 14:16 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice It's a shame that the Realspeak voices don't work properly on the E71 as I liked the Daniel voice. It just breaks up all the time. From: Eleanor <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Burke Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:36 PM To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice I first got my Talks from Vodafone and then when I got my N95 Standard I purchased the Real Speak voices. One copy is enough for me at £25.00 (at the time) to know that Eloquence is the voice for me! *smile*. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara <mailto:barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Wilson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:01 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice You are quite right Eleanor. However, can't say how many I've sold, but only one person has bought RealSpeak as their initial package. Most seem to go for Eloquence and then perhaps add the others later. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: Eleanor <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Burke To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Oh no Barbra, the customer like me, will not know that and indeed I only knew of it through this list. Other customers on the other hand will research the product very well prior to purchase. I never gave it a thought actually, the fact that there might be other voices. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara <mailto:barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Wilson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Steve I am aware of that as you know, but unless a customer states otherwise, the assumption is that they want Eloquence. I think the onis is on the customer to say otherwise if they want differently. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:08 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Hi Ibrahim, You can choose from us too. Barbara, you just need to tell us which voice you want when you purchase. All the best Steve _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: Monday 5 October 2009 21:08 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Hi Barbra. Not so. If you go to www.talknav.com, you can choose the voice that talks comes with at time of purchase. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara <mailto:barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Wilson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Carol If you don't request otherwise, TALKS comes with Eloquence. That voice is included in the price. As has been said, additional voices are extra. So you do have a voice package, the one which came with TALKS at time of purchase. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: cheeky <mailto:cheekychipmunk@xxxxxxxxxxx> chipmunk To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:03 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice what do you mean? I just use the voice it comes with, my Niece did it on line with help over the phone and I had other talks through vodafone, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara <mailto:barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Wilson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Carol If you didn't know you could get voices, then how do you use TALKS? Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: cheeky <mailto:cheekychipmunk@xxxxxxxxxxx> chipmunk To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Well I have never been told that and didn't know you could even get voices till recently, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Ibrahim <mailto:ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> Gucukoglu To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:16 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Hi Carol. That is simply not the case. When you buy talks, you can choose whether you want the vocalizer/realspeak voices or the eloquence voices at time of purchase. If you choose one, you can use those voices in perpetuity unless or until you decide you want to buy the other voices in which case you'll have both sets of voices to choose from. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: cheeky <mailto:cheekychipmunk@xxxxxxxxxxx> chipmunk To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice That is disgusting, you pay for talks and then you pay for voices, are we all made of money? Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Barnfather - <mailto:talks@xxxxxxxxxxx> TalkNav To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Vocalize voice Steve, You must first buy a license for it to use any of the real speak or vocalize voices. These are on sale from any of the UK dealers and are priced at around £35 or so. For more details or to buy visit www.talknav.com ---Neil Barnfather TalkNav TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? www.talknav.com www.wayfinderaccess.com Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S Sent: 05 October 2009 11:24 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Vocalize voice Hi, I've installed a vocalize voice on my N85 and everything went OK, but how do I use it? I can't find any option to use this voice! I thought I'd be able to change to it within the talks settings, but no joy...any help please? Cheers Steve. 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