[talks-uk] Re: TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:20:50 +0000
Adrien,
If you originally had Talks with Eloquence speech, that is the other synth
type, then you would find some synths in your Talks settings called Eloquence
or ELO. by purchasing the Vocalizer additional synth pack, you can install all
of the Vocalizer synths that you wish to, and run these along side the
eloquence speech synths.
in other words you can have them all installed at the same time.
I hope that this answers your question, just use the latest activation code you
were given and this will authorise all your synths on your phone.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
Twitter @NeilBarnfather
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On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:03, Adrien Collins wrote:
Hi Neil
Ok perhaps you can answer another question for me please. I
purchased talks from one site and then last year I up-graded
the talks license to get the vocaliser voices, can you tell
me what the difference is here and when I install the
vocaliser voices, does it replace talks or how does it work
please? I know I have more than one question here but I have
a lot to understand and learn as I am new to talking mobile
phones.
Regards
Adrien
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Martin,
if you bought a license from our site, then you bought
Premium, we do not sell Standard licenses.
so hopefully this answers your question.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
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On 21 Feb 2011, at 12:48, Martin wrote:
Hi Neil
Just a quick question about upgrading licence.
Can you only get a free upgrade if you have the premium
edition?
I purchased version 5 from your site 11 days ago so
hopefully I can still upgrade even though I don't have the
premium edition.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Martin
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Subject: [talks-uk] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
Dear All,
TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the
latest build of Nuance Talks, offering a wide range of new
support for both OVI Maps and newer Symbian ^3 devices.
For the full release notes please read below.
You can immediately download the latest version of
Talks from the TalkNav web-site, and for those of you
needing an update to your license, we can provide these 24
hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation.
enjoy...
Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
Release Notification
1. Introduction
We proudly announce the release of the Nuance
Accessibility Suite - Nuance TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20
supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th Edition for February
17, 2011.
This version also introduces support for Symbian^3
in Nuance TALKS. Screen magnification using ZOOMS is not yet
supported on Symbian^3 in this release.
For Users with a Premium license this version also
contains the new Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and
Vocalizer as the previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22,
respectively). The TTS installation file for Eloquence US
English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium
Edition licenses generated after November 13th, 2007 (the
release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). In particular,
this means that it can be installed by any customer who is
currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring
a new license.
2. The new handsets
2.1. Changes to the list of supported
phone models
The following handsets are newly supported (please
see section 4 "Known Issues" about some limitations):
* Nokia C6-00
* Nokia C7-00
* Nokia E5-00
* Nokia N8-00
We also assume the following phones to work without
major problems. However we have not got enough test results
yet to definitely confirm this:
* Nokia C5-03
* Nokia C6-01
* Nokia E7-00
See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets
for this version.
3. What's New?
This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS
5.20 compared to the previous version (5.01).
3.1. Support for Symbian^3
Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that
supports the new Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in
some of its most recent smartphone models, such as the N8-00
and the C7-00. Support for the just-released E7-00 is
likely, but has not yet been confirmed.
Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar
manner to the approach used for 5th Edition touch screen
phones, by relying on a combination of list navigation using
the side keys of the phone together with the ability to
"explore" the screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be
started by holding the finger on one position for about half
a second, and then moving around. Lifting and tapping again
anywhere on the screen will click on the most recently
"explored" position.
As usual, some features, such as side key
navigation, are only available once the phone has been
powered off and back on after installing or re-enabling
TALKS.
As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do
not include physical [Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the
N8-00, two new TALKS shortcuts have been introduced to still
be able to perform these important functions quickly:
* [Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key,
e.g. to accept an incoming call or to open the list of most
recently dialled calls.
* [Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit]
key, to hang up or reject a call. Note that the call is only
hung up after the [Power] key is released, unlike with most
other "long" TALKS commands.
A few remarks on specific areas with limited
accessibility on Symbian^3 phones:
. Symbian^3: screen magnification using
ZOOMS and Automation are not yet supported.
. Some Symbian^3-specific gestures, such as
pinch-to-zoom and long-tapping a menu item to open its
context menu are not available while TALKS is running.
Anyway, in the case of context menus it is generally
possible to access the same functions by navigating to the
menu item using the side keys, and then opening the Options
menu.
. It is not yet possible for TALKS to speak
while a phone call is in progress. Speech is however
available when an incoming call is ringing, and the ringtone
has been muted by pressing [Key 2]. Please note that
TALKS does not yet announce the number or name of the caller
in this case. It is therefore recommended to use the "Say
caller's name" option in the current profile to get this
information instead.
. The new Conversations view in Messaging,
which lists all the incoming and outgoing messages for a
particular contact, is not fully supported in this version.
This view also opens by default when reacting to an incoming
message from the pop-up dialog in the home screen, so it is
recommended to go to the Options menu in the Messaging
application, and to change the Message View setting from
Conversations to Inbox. The Conversation view uses an
embedded browser, so it can be made partially accessible
using the new feature described in section 3.3 (see below).
. Selecting a bookmark in the web browser is
only possible by exploring the screen and tapping onto the
list item, not by pressing [long Vol Down] on the list item.
3.2. Support for Ovi Maps
This version of TALKS introduces support for the Ovi
Maps 3 application that is either built-in or available as a
download for most devices from Series 60 3rd Edition FP1
onwards. Initial support has been optimized for Ovi Maps
3.03 and 3.04 on keyboard-phones, though earlier and later
versions (as found, for example on Symbian^3) can be used
successfully as well.
Generally, important information and focus details
are read as usual on most screens. A few specific details
are worth mentioning:
* On the "My Position" screen, TALKS reads the
address of the current position by default. Pressing
[Talks],[long Key 2] for additional information also reads
the city/region.
* While following a route on the "Drive" and
"Walk" screens, TALKS will read the street and distance to
the next turn by default, and give additional information
(e.g. current position, distance to destination etc.) when
pressing [Talks],[long Key 2].
* While following a route in "driving" mode,
it is possible to preview the next turns by pressing [Up]
several times. This will read the street names and distances
to travel for each of the turns. This feature is not
available in "walking" mode.
* While following a route, the standard
keyboard commands of Ovi Maps are available, such as [4] to
repeat reading of the last instruction and [2] to save the
current position as a favourite.
* Additional services, such as "Weather",
"Events" or "More" in the main menu are not yet accessible.
* The contents of the "About" screen (under
Options > Support) are currently not read.
Please note that on touch phones, some default
read-outs may not be optimal, but all information is still
accessible by "exploring" the screen.
3.3. Access to embedded browser views
(e.g. Help screens)
An increasing number of applications are using an
embedded version of web browser to display content that does
not directly come from a web page. Examples are the display
of Help pages in many applications on 3rd Edition FP2 and
later phones, contents of e-mail messages in HTML format and
the Conversations view on Symbian^3 phones.
On touch phones, these screens can be recognized by
the fact that the virtual keyboard for the browser is
displayed, but that navigating the page beyond the page
title is not possible. Also, the announcement of the number
of links (or "Page has no links") is missing.
Version 5.20 offers a method to make the textual
content (though not the links) in some of these pages
accessible upon request: when such a page is shown on the
screen, simply press [Talks],[Down] to read the page
contents. If necessary, this will first try to convert the
page text into a readable format, and then start reading it.
In some cases, it may be necessary to press the key
a second time to commence reading. Also, this method does
yet work in all applications.
3.4. Various changes
This section lists further changes to TALKS that
were made in this update:
Application support:
* Focus in Nokia Internet Radio is now
recognized.
* Lists in N97 web radio are now read.
* Made several improvements to accessibility
of Java apps (e.g. automatic reading of non-editable text
fields and of some types of input controls).
* New e-mail application on C6-00 is now
supported.
* Reduced verbosity of Calendar app on newer
phones (e.g. E52), and improved reliability of focus reading
in some views.
Touch screen improvements:
* When exploring, objects that consist of
nothing but an unlabeled graphic are spoken as "Icon".
* Icon for closing full screen in lower right
corner of touch browser is now read (as a soft key).
* Holding [Camera] key while exploring screen
forces explore mode, and prevents accidental clicking.
* [Talks],[long Vol Down] to switch between
navigation and volume control now takes effect immediately,
and works in applications where it failed previously, such
as Daisy2go.
* Fixed incorrect cycling on [long Vol Up]
from softkeys back to focus on screens with Text object
(e.g. Notes or New Message).
Daisy2go improvements:
* Fixed some cases where a few seconds were
cut off at the end of an audio file.
* Changed tab width in Settings so all three
tabs are accessible by touch.
Bug fixes:
* Fixed out-of-memory messages after opening
and closing a large number of applications or messages.
* Fixed reading of Symbol table with new
E52/E72 firmware 051.x.
* Fixed text entry in browser on phones with
new web browser 7.2, and on N97mini.
* Added missing punctuation reading for some
common Unicode dash characters, and introduced short pauses
when reading forced line breaks.
* Fixed some cases where order of punctuation
and right-to-left text is incorrect, or where right-to-left
text was read in the wrong order.
* Fixed problems with finding user
dictionaries and app settings on drive F, especially after
moving TALKS installation to a different drive.
4. Known Issues with specific handsets and apps
. Touch phones: currently, there are some
limitations to the use of the on-screen keyboard for text
entry. In particular, the menus for switching to other
keyboard layouts and for picking suggestions from the T9
dictionary are not fully accessible. Switching to other
keyboard layouts is not recommended, as some of them (e.g.
mini-Qwerty or handwriting) are not yet supported by TALKS,
and can be difficult to exit.
. Touch phones: the symbol table in the
virtual keyboard is currently not accessible. On 5th Edition
phones only (but not on Symbian^3) opening the symbol table
in the on-screen keyboard can lead to the keyboard stopping
to take input until you press [Exit] to go to the main menu,
and then return to the application where you were entering
text.
. Touch phones: text entry into an object
announced as "Fields" (e.g. a date or a time) is not
supported well by this version of TALKS, as the virtual
keyboard cannot be used with speech. This limits the use of
the Calendar and Clock applications that rely on these types
of objects for date and time input.
. On some phones, holding the [Camera] key
does not launch the Camera application while this version of
TALKS is active. The camera can still be opened through the
phone's menu, or assigned to a softkey on the home screen.
. Internet radio on 3rd Edition phones: long
list items start scrolling horizontally when they become
focused, so TALKS will repeat their contents partially a few
times until they stop moving. Also, some details on
the "Now playing" screen are not read by default, though
they are available through the Object Viewer (a feature only
available in TALKS Premium).
. N97: training mode will read the digits,
rather than the letters, for the keys in the top row of the
QWERTY keyboard.
. Some keyboard functions, such as
[Talks],[digit] shortcuts on the Idle screen and the use of
the side keys to navigate through menus on 5th Edition, are
only supported after the phone has been rebooted once after
installing or re-enabling TALKS.
. E55: [Talks],[digit] shortcuts have been
reported to not work properly on this phone, most likely as
a result of the unusual keyboard layout.
. 3rd Edition (FP1 and FP2): the "Search"
application is not supported.
. 3rd Edition FP2: You will notice a slow
response of voice recognition "beep" after holding [Key 2]
when TALKS is not muted
. E75: When using ZOOMS, moving around the
screen by holding down the cursor keys is currently not
possible. The magnified portion of the screen always follows
the current focus position.
. N96: "Photos" application (and "Photos"
submenu of "Gallery") is not supported.
. N96: Daisy2Go does not support firmware
versions prior to 20.x of this phone.
5. FAQ
Q: Your software does not install on my E-Series
handset or branded device, and reports a Certificate Error!
Why?
A: While TALKS&ZOOMS for Symbian itself is
certified, and thus can be installed on any supported
handset, the installers for the TTS engines (Eloquence or
Vocalizer for Mobile) are not signed. E-Series handsets and
some branded devices only accept the installation of signed
software, unless you turn of the corresponding option inside
the Application Manager:
. Open the phone menu.
. Open the App. Manager inside the Tools
folder
. Press "Options", then select "Settings".
. Set "Software Installation" from "Signed
only" to "All".
. Press "Back" to close the Settings
dialogue, then "Exit" to close the App. Manager.
. Now, you can install the TTS engine.
Another reason could be that the date on your phone
is not set correctly - as Symbian apps need to be digitally
signed, SIS files can only be installed if the phone is set
to a valid date.
Q: Can I install the new release of TALKS&ZOOMS,
while a previous release is active?
A: Yes, if the new version is installed to the same
memory location as the previous release. If you would like
to change the memory location, you have to remove the
previous release first!
Q: Why do I get an "Upgrade error" when installing
the S60 3rd/5th Edition version?
A: The most likely reasons are that you have used a
beta release, or already have the Nokia TTS driver available
that was installed as a separate file with version 3.10.
Please remove any beta version, as well as the Nokia TTS
driver or the Nuance Speech2Go Reader application, before
upgrading to TALKS 5.20.
Q: Why do I get an "Invalid serial number" error
when trying to activate a demo version of TALKS, even though
I have entered the code correctly and never used TALKS on
this phone before?
A: The most likely reason is that TALKS thinks the
demo has already "expired" because the date on the phone is
set incorrectly, usually to some date in the future.
6. Full compatibility list
6.1. Current models
This section lists compatible handsets running on
Series 60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 2, Series 60 5th Edition
and Symbian^3, many of which are available at least in some
markets:
* Keyboard phones:
* Nokia 5320 XpressMusic
* Nokia 5630 XpressMusic
* Nokia 6700 slide (but not 6700
classic!)
* Nokia 6210 Navigator
* Nokia 6220 Classic
* Nokia 6650 fold
* Nokia 6710 Navigator
* Nokia 6720 classic
* Nokia 6730 classic
* Nokia 6790 Surge / slide
* Nokia C5-00
* Nokia E5-00
* Nokia E52
* Nokia E66
* Nokia E71
* Nokia E71x
* Nokia E72
* Nokia E73
* Nokia E75
* Nokia N78
* Nokia N79
* Nokia N85
* Nokia N86
* Nokia N96
* Touch screen phones:
* Nokia 5800 XpressMusic
* Nokia C6-00
* Nokia C7-00
* Nokia N8-00
* Nokia N97
* Nokia N97mini
* Nokia X6
* Untested, but expected to work:
* Nokia 5228 Xpress Music
* Nokia 5230 Xpress Music
* Nokia 5235 Xpress Music
* Nokia 5530 Xpress Music
* Nokia 5730 Xpress Music
* Nokia C5-03
* Nokia C6-01
* Nokia E7-00
* Nokia X5-01
6.2. Earlier models (3rd Edition
Feature Pack 1 and older)
This section lists handsets running earlier versions
of Series 60 3rd Edition which can still be upgraded to run
TALKS 5.00. However, they are typically no longer available
in most regions except as second-hand and refurbished
devices.
* Nokia 3250
* Nokia 5500
* Nokia 5700
* Nokia 6110 Navigator
* Nokia 6120C
* Nokia 6121C
* Nokia 6124 Classic
* Nokia 6290
* Nokia E50
* Nokia E51
* Nokia E60
* Nokia E61
* Nokia E61i
* Nokia E62
* Nokia E63
* Nokia E65
* Nokia E70
* Nokia E90
* Nokia N71
* Nokia N72
* Nokia N73
* Nokia N75
* Nokia N76
* Nokia N80
* Nokia N81/ N81 8GB
* Nokia N82
* Nokia N91
* Nokia N95 / N95 8GB
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
Twitter @NeilBarnfather
TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero
dealer, for all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries
visit www.talknav.com <http://www.talknav.com/>
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