[talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
- From: "Eleanor Burke " <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:08:59 +0000
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 29/10/2009 3:Absolutely Jackie. Ditto to all you say.02 pm
I know Eleanor, it's amazing how you can interpret what somebody texts
you, and how different one text might sound from another, even though
they are all being read by the same voice. That we can read messages at
all is so brilliant in my view. I can't begin to tell you how much fun
I've had since my Talks journey began.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
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Tel: 01604 798024
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www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 29 October 2009 14:31
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
of course Jackie but amazing how one hears it differently.
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 29/10/2009 2:21 pm
Hi Eleanor
No. It's partly your interpretation of what is being written, and
partly how the message is written by the sender. Well that's how I
gauge them anyway. For example, when I receive jokes, I never alter how
they are written, spelled, phrased etc. I simply forward them onto my
friends and family. But there is a definite distinction between the
texts I might receive between say a colleague and a close friend. It
isn't that Talks is reading them any differently, it can't know!
(laughs). But it's how you perceive the message, and probably the
intent with which it was written by the sender.
Here does this make sense? (smiles).
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 29 October 2009 14:02
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
I do exactly but you make a very interesting point and I wish someone
like yourself could explain it to me. I sware for instance that a text
message read by Talks from my very closest friend sounds different to
say a text from 'just someone'. Now is that my brain working over-time?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
Hi Barbara
No, not really. There is often a good reason for using a symbol like
that. If you text somebody, and you want to convey something, but don't
want it to sound offensive, aggressive, or not keen to alter the tone of
your message, then it's good to put a smiley face in there.
Particularly with Talks reading your message, it can sound stern or
rather brisk without the intention. So I find it sometimes quite nice
to put a smiley face in to convey I am actually smiling.
I don't know if this makes sense, but I know what I mean even if nobody
else does! (smile).
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson
Sent: 29 October 2009 13:10
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
All this bother for something we can't see!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> I've done it, but then you have to do it both with the dash and
without if
> you want both to be recognised.
>
> It's a bit of a bore having to enter all these things. I wonder if
anyone
> knows why it is that they appeared to be included and to work in
previous
> versions of Talks.
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:32 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
>
>>I think it was you who first suggested that Carol. Give it a go! It
>>will work.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:22 PM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
>>
>>
>>> That's what I thought we'd have to do, Eleanor, but I haven't tried
>>> it yet.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carol
>>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a
>>>
>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:46 PM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
>>>
>>>> OK Jackie I have now discovered that I needed to put these in to my
>>>> User Dictionary for Talks on e71 and now it works but what a pain
>>>> doing the three key strokes each time. Do you have a Template for
>>>> it or just do it as you go?
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns"
>>>> <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:07 AM
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>>
>>>> I love these. For a smile, press colon dash and right bracket.
>>>> For a sad face, do colon dash left bracket. You have to
have
>>>> punctuation on Talks set to none or even some to make it say
>>>> "smiley face" or "sad face" though. I'm
not
>>>> aware
>>>> of any other ones that Talks
>>>> describes in this way. My son did explain that the positioning of
>>>> these three symbols makes it look like a sort of
smile
>>>> or sad face, but I'm not brave enough to elaborate more than that
as
>>>> I've never seen what they look like anyway. (smiley face).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
>>>> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park
>>>> Northampton
>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>> Telephone: 01604 798024
>>>> Fax: 01604 798090
>>>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>>> Sent: 26 October 2009 23:01
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Smily Face
>>>>
>>>> i forget how to write this when I write a text message.
>>>> I think Carol is one person who can tell me how to do it. How is
>>>> it that talks is able to recognize the image and call
it a
>>>> smily face. Actually if there is a down or miserable face too, and
>>>> any other facial expression, just a frown or whatever I would like
>>>> to know it. I am not looking for a list
of
>>>> moticans, just the
>>>> ones one might use when sending a
>>>> text.
>>>>
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