Hi Paul. There are other problems associated with Vodafone and indeed every other provider. Symbian appears at the moment to be getting near the end of its life and Windows 7 for mobiles is not accessible. The Vodafone screenreader is based on Windows Mobile but the symbian version of Windows Mobile provides no web access to speak of. We need a good accessible platform that people can work with and have confidence that it will last. Backing the right horse is currently quite tricky. Regards Graham Graham Page Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: <mailto:gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: <mailto:gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx> gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats Sent: 14 January 2011 13:55 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: OT: Mobile Speak and Vodafone! Yeah, but, are Vodafone gonna provide better access to their own apps with this version of screen reader? Access to Voda apps is shocking as it is largely non existent. Try their mobile application which you can use to read your bills, current balance etc. To be fair, you can get limited info of that sort as a text message but, the above will serve to demonstrate the lack of accessibility currently available. In short, Vodafone are playing around the edges really. Cheers. Paul _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Higginbotham Sent: 14 January 2011 13:26 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: OT: Mobile Speak and Vodafone! Vodafone have been working with code factory to develop a solution for providing screenreaders in a more cost effective way. In spain they have a subscription based model in which you pay an extra 5 a month to have a screenreader on you handset, this is a more limited features set than mobile speak so I don't know if for example is supports ovi maps. At rnib techshare mobile back in june 2010 voda wre saying they hoped to do a uk pilot soon but I haven't heard anything since then. They also hadn't made any plans as to whether this would be instead of or as well as providing talks though it's hard to imagin why they would be doing this if it wasn't a replacement for talks as I can' see anyone choosing a product they have to pay for which has less features than one that is free just because it is easier to install. Ease of installation was the main benefit to the end user of the project in spain as you could initiate installation by clicking on a link sent via sms in reply to a subscription request sent by the customer also by sms. Adrian Higginbotham E: Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @AHiggi From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Sent: 11 January 2011 15:23 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: OT: Mobile Speak and Vodafone! Hi. Around the middle of last year, about July or August, I was looking for a GPS system. Since Trekker Pro had been discontinued I thought of Geo but that only runs on Windows smart phones with mobile speak. I called Voda customer service and spoke to them for a long time about the various options as regards Windows phones as I didn't want a touch screen phone. I asked them if they would provide Mobile Speak on the phone if I took out a contract, just as they do with TALKS. They said they do provide Mobile Speak as well as Talks and another option but I can't remember what that was. It might have been their own in house application, not sure now. In the end I got funding to get a Trekker and as Human Ware had just got a couple from Canada, I bought one. There was no point forking out money for a new phone and GPS application when a charity was willing to buy me the Trekker. Walter. _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 11 January 2011 15:02 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: OT: Mobile Speak and Vodafone! Who did you ask Walter. -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: OT: Mobile Speak and Vodafone! From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 11/01/2011 2:37 pm Thanks Walter... I'll have a go with them. Paul _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Sent: 11 January 2011 11:32 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: OT: Mobile Speak and Vodafone! The Answer is yes, I've asked them in the past. Walter. _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats Sent: 11 January 2011 11:00 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] OT: Mobile Speak and Vodafone! Hi All Just a very quick question as I know it's off topic but, not sure where else to ask. Does anyone know if Vodafone in the UK will put Mobile Speak on a phone instead of Talks? Thanks. Paul Hopkins _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3372 - Release Date: 01/10/11 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3372 - Release Date: 01/10/11 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3374 - Release Date: 01/11/11