[talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:53:55 -0000
Yeah, that is what I thought! In the end... About the walking speed
adjustment.
How well can I expect the battery and the internal GPS and AGPS to fair on
the N86?
Thanks.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 26 March 2010 13:35
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Hi Paul.
Hmmm, I suggest you give it another go, this time using the driving mode
when on a bus. I'm guessing the refresh rate of the GPS is lowered when
walking as its assumed that people aren't going to walk at speeds in excess
of 10 miles per hour *smile*. Also, try using the phone's internal gps, I
think you'll be surprised at how good it is once it has a fix.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>I also wonder if it was because I was in walking mode on OVI while
> travelling on the bus? Maybe they allow for slower speeds In walking
> mode.
>
> It was quite a way out I have to say.
>
> Gonnaa give it another go anyway but, access is still very much an issue
> for
> me with very little sight.
>
> Like I think you said... They could build it in relatively easily.
>
> I'm guessing the conversion behind the maps to some kind of text which a
> screen reader could read would be the difficult bit? Not sure how all
> that
> works.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> Sent: 26 March 2010 13:06
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>
> Hi Paul.
>
> Well, if my experience is anything to go by, I used my N97 which has both
> assisted and hardware GPS and I found Ovi incredibly accurate considering.
> Wayfinder was never as accurate as Ovi even when an external receiver
> was used and the built in GPS didn't place too much demand on my battery.
> I
> was using the product in navigation mode for over an hour and my battery
> was
> still at 7 bars when I was done. I think a lot of people don't like the
> internal gps receivers because the N82 was famous for draining the battery
> whenever you wanted to use it, but that is the case no longer.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:57 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>
>
>>I used an external GPS receiver and found OVI quite inaccurate. I need to
>> give it another go I guess and I will. But, I have the keychain receiver
>> that Talknav sell, or, were selling so, shouldn't be a problem there.
>> I'm
>> reluctant to switch to internal GPS receiver and AGPS cause of battery
>> life
>> on my phone.
>>
>> Using the N86 for reference by the way.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Paul H
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> Sent: 26 March 2010 12:24
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>
>> Hi Steve.
>>
>> All thingz considered, as you say, its not adiquit enough of a
>> replacement
>> for the totally blind traveller however it is nearly there. If the home
>> screen were made usable, we could get more information about what street
>> we
>> were on or where we were in both driving and walking navigation modes,
>> this
>> product could easily outshine wayfinder though, its just a matter of
>> putting
>> in the effort by the powers that be.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:32 AM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ibrahim,
>>>
>>> I think we should be realistic here though, it is not really a solution
>>> for
>>> the blind in its current state.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Thursday 25 March 2010 09:41
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>
>>> Hi Steve.
>>>
>>> Well, I was able to use Maps on a route from my home to the local
>>> chemist
>>> yesterday, however I get your point to a degree because you have to
>>> memorise
>>>
>>> which icon and sub icon you need. For instance to walk a route, you
>>> need
>>> to
>>>
>>> press the right arrow once, enter once then right arrow once to set
>>> destination and this all from the home screen while avoiding touching
>>> the
>>> touchscreen on N series devices. You could easily become disoriented if
>>> you'll pardon the pun *smile*.
>>>
>>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:04 AM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> This is entirely my point. Saqib is coming at this from a low vision
>>>> user's
>>>> point of view, which is entirely different to that of a total.
>>>>
>>>> I still maintain that maps is pretty unusable if you have no sight.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Scott C
>>>> Sent: Wednesday 24 March 2010 11:33
>>>> To: Talks List Talks List
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to sack for the pod cast on this.
>>>>
>>>> I have to say though the mane thing I noted from it is that non of the
>>>> things he went to on screen talked either before he prest on it or
>>>> after
>>>> so
>>>> how can a blind person use it?
>>>>
>>>> From listening to this I don't think I could.
>>>>
>>>> Ta Scott.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent On: 24/03/2010 09:08
>>>> Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eleanor,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, but then again, I didn't know about them until what I read on here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>>> Sent: Monday 22 March 2010 22:21
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh well Steve, Neil is holding up a flame of hope tonight re WFA.
>>>> Maybe
>>>> the
>>>> Ovi Maps will not be necessary after all. that would be brill if Neil
>>>> does
>>>> come up with something. Are you involved in these Talks, too, if you
>>>> will
>>>> pardon the pun, on the Talks list *smile*.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:21 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eleanor,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe it. The icons don't talk, but even pressing on them
>>>> gets
>>>> nothing, so Hussein, care to elaborate? I guess you have some useful
>>>> vision
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>>> Sent: Sunday 21 March 2010 20:45
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is interesting, I would have expected it to have made sense to
>>>> Steve
>>>> then as Steve has a lot of experience with phones and technology in
>>>> general.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:35 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can confirm this. I commandeered an N86 today and even though I did
>>>> not
>>>> use it for long, Sahib's description made sense to me when I had the
>>>> thing
>>>> in front of me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Have a pleasant day,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hussein.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>>>> Sent: 21 March 2010 19:56
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go to www.nokia.com/maps and download the 3.03 release of maps. Its
>>>> not
>>>> available through the SW update feature on that phone, so you have to
>>>> download it manually. Install it and you'll be able to use the
>>>> software
>>>> as
>>>> per the instructions Saqib has provided.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:30 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Saqib,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This description is no help at all if you have an N86, since the
>>>> submenus
>>>> are not being read out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks to me as if maps is completely inaccessible on the N86.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only bit that is accessible is when you press options, you get
>>>> Account,
>>>> Settings and Support. That is all I can get anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for a great effort, but it looks as though this won't work on
>>>> some
>>>> of
>>>> the newer phones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Saqib
>>>> Sent: Friday 19 March 2010 17:56
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nokia Ovi Maps 3.3 main menu description.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This description is for the new Nokia Maps 3.3 main menu interface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Usually when you open the application you are greted with the main menu
>>>> which consists of 10 icons. There are two rows of 4 icons which are
>>>> displayed on the screen and a further 2 which can be seen at the bottom
>>>> left
>>>> of the screen. The display almost looks like a 4-4-2 formation. For
>>>> those
>>>> who follow football will know what I'm relating to.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When you first open the Ovi Maps 3.3 app the drive icon is highlighted.
>>>> The
>>>> drive icon is located on the left of the screen, second one down from
>>>> the
>>>> top left icon. If you select this drive icon you will be presented with
>>>> a
>>>> further 3 icons. The highlighter will be on the first of the 3 icons
>>>> presented which is on the left of the other two icons. The first icon
>>>> is
>>>> called drive home in this submenu. Selecting this will prompt the app
>>>> to
>>>> start navigation to your home location.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The second icon in this sub menu is called Set Destination. Pressing
>>>> select
>>>> on this will bring up a accessible menu where you can select an option
>>>> of
>>>> your choice. These choices consist of History, Favourites, Search and
>>>> finally From Map. The From Map is the 4th option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The third and final icon from this Drive submenu is called Map. If you
>>>> select this you will be shown a Map view of your current location. From
>>>> this
>>>> Map you can press select and you will then be presented with a
>>>> accessible
>>>> menu. The first of these options is Show Details.This will give you
>>>> further
>>>> information in text so You will know exactly where you are currently
>>>> standing. For example a name of the road and the number of the property
>>>> in
>>>> which you may be standing by. Second option is Share location. Third
>>>> option
>>>> is Save Place. 4th option is Send. I have now covered the drive section
>>>> of
>>>> Ovi Maps 3.3.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Position Icon
>>>>
>>>> From the main icon screen remember when I pointed out that the
>>>> highlighter
>>>> is stationed on the Drive icon in which I have described in detail
>>>> above.
>>>> Above this icon is the My position icon which is situated on the top
>>>> left
>>>> of
>>>> the screen. It's the first icon in the first row of icons. To get to
>>>> this
>>>> you just arrow up once from the Drive icon. With in this map view you
>>>> can
>>>> hit select to bring up an accessible menu. These consist of Show
>>>> Details,Share Location, Save Place and the final option in the list is
>>>> Send.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Find Places
>>>>
>>>> The Find Places icon is the second icon in from the top left next to
>>>> the
>>>> My
>>>> Position Icon. Pressing select on this will bring up a search box. Once
>>>> you
>>>> type in your search you should be presented with a result of your
>>>> search.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Share Location
>>>>
>>>> The Share Location Icon is the third icon in the top ro after the Find
>>>> Places icon. You will have to create a Nokia account to take advantage
>>>> of
>>>> this feature.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Favourites
>>>>
>>>> The Favourites Icon is the 4th and last icon in the top row. This is on
>>>> the
>>>> right of the Share Location icon. Pressing select on this will bring up
>>>> the
>>>> Favourites menu. The options here are Sincronise with Ovi, Places,
>>>> Routs
>>>> and
>>>> Create New Collection.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Second row of 4 icons description
>>>>
>>>> The First option in this row of icons is the Drive option. I have
>>>> covered
>>>> this earlier on in this document.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Walk
>>>>
>>>> The Walk option resides next door to the Drive icon. Selecting this
>>>> option
>>>> will bring up a submenu of three icons. The first icon is Walk Home.
>>>> This
>>>> will trigger the navigation mode and you will be ready to outtake your
>>>> journey on foot. Icon 2 is the Set Destination option. From heare you
>>>> can
>>>> select an address from a previous history or favourites. There are also
>>>> options to search or select from map. As the map it self is
>>>> inaccessible
>>>> I
>>>> think this option is not applicable for the VI user. The final option
>>>> in
>>>> the
>>>> Walk submenu is help. Sadly this is also inaccessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weather
>>>>
>>>> The Weather icon is the third icon in the second row and this is
>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Events
>>>>
>>>> The Events Icon is the final icon in the second row of four. This
>>>> feature
>>>> is
>>>> also inacfcessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Third row of 2 icons
>>>>
>>>> The third row which is the bottom row has two icons. Both are
>>>> inaccessible.
>>>> The first is called Loanly Plannet and the neighbouring icon is called
>>>> Michelin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope this description is a help to those who are using the
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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