Hi Paul.Hmmm, I suggest you give it another go, this time using the driving mode when on a bus. I'm guessing the refresh rate of the GPS is lowered when walking as its assumed that people aren't going to walk at speeds in excess of 10 miles per hour *smile*. Also, try using the phone's internal gps, I think you'll be surprised at how good it is once it has a fix.
All the best, Ibrahim.----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
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I also wonder if it was because I was in walking mode on OVI whiletravelling on the bus? Maybe they allow for slower speeds In walking mode.It was quite a way out I have to say.Gonnaa give it another go anyway but, access is still very much an issue forme with very little sight. Like I think you said... They could build it in relatively easily. I'm guessing the conversion behind the maps to some kind of text which ascreen reader could read would be the difficult bit? Not sure how all thatworks. Cheers. Paul -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 26 March 2010 13:06 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Paul. Well, if my experience is anything to go by, I used my N97 which has both assisted and hardware GPS and I found Ovi incredibly accurate considering. Wayfinder was never as accurate as Ovi even when an external receiverwas used and the built in GPS didn't place too much demand on my battery. I was using the product in navigation mode for over an hour and my battery wasstill at 7 bars when I was done. I think a lot of people don't like the internal gps receivers because the N82 was famous for draining the battery whenever you wanted to use it, but that is the case no longer. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:57 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface descriptionI used an external GPS receiver and found OVI quite inaccurate. I need to give it another go I guess and I will. But, I have the keychain receiverthat Talknav sell, or, were selling so, shouldn't be a problem there. I'mreluctant to switch to internal GPS receiver and AGPS cause of battery life on my phone. Using the N86 for reference by the way. Thanks. Paul H -----Original Message-----From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 26 March 2010 12:24 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Steve.All thingz considered, as you say, its not adiquit enough of a replacementfor the totally blind traveller however it is nearly there. If the home screen were made usable, we could get more information about what street we were on or where we were in both driving and walking navigation modes, this product could easily outshine wayfinder though, its just a matter of putting in the effort by the powers that be. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:32 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface descriptionHi Ibrahim, I think we should be realistic here though, it is not really a solution for the blind in its current state. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday 25 March 2010 09:41 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Steve.Well, I was able to use Maps on a route from my home to the local chemistyesterday, however I get your point to a degree because you have to memorisewhich icon and sub icon you need. For instance to walk a route, you needto press the right arrow once, enter once then right arrow once to setdestination and this all from the home screen while avoiding touching thetouchscreen on N series devices. You could easily become disoriented if you'll pardon the pun *smile*. All the best, Ibrahim.----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:04 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface descriptionHi Scott, This is entirely my point. Saqib is coming at this from a low vision user's point of view, which is entirely different to that of a total. I still maintain that maps is pretty unusable if you have no sight. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott C Sent: Wednesday 24 March 2010 11:33 To: Talks List Talks List Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Thanks to sack for the pod cast on this. I have to say though the mane thing I noted from it is that non of thethings he went to on screen talked either before he prest on it or afterso how can a blind person use it? From listening to this I don't think I could. Ta Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 24/03/2010 09:08 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Eleanor, No, but then again, I didn't know about them until what I read on here. All the best Steve From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: Monday 22 March 2010 22:21 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface descriptionOh well Steve, Neil is holding up a flame of hope tonight re WFA. Maybethe Ovi Maps will not be necessary after all. that would be brill if Neil does come up with something. Are you involved in these Talks, too, if you will pardon the pun, on the Talks list *smile*.----- Original Message -----From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Eleanor, I don't believe it. The icons don't talk, but even pressing on them gets nothing, so Hussein, care to elaborate? I guess you have some useful vision too. All the best Steve From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: Sunday 21 March 2010 20:45 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description That is interesting, I would have expected it to have made sense to Steve then as Steve has a lot of experience with phones and technology in general.----- Original Message -----From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:35 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi, I can confirm this. I commandeered an N86 today and even though I did not use it for long, Sahib's description made sense to me when I had the thing in front of me. _______________________________________ Have a pleasant day, Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Hussein. Hussein Patwa Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa Skype: patwaspotterfan2 GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter Web: www.patwanet.co.uk My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 21 March 2010 19:56 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Steve.Go to www.nokia.com/maps and download the 3.03 release of maps. Its notavailable through the SW update feature on that phone, so you have todownload it manually. Install it and you'll be able to use the softwareas per the instructions Saqib has provided. All the best, Ibrahim.----- Original Message -----From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Saqib, This description is no help at all if you have an N86, since the submenus are not being read out. It looks to me as if maps is completely inaccessible on the N86. The only bit that is accessible is when you press options, you get Account, Settings and Support. That is all I can get anyway. Thanks for a great effort, but it looks as though this won't work on some of the newer phones. All the best Steve From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: Friday 19 March 2010 17:56 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Nokia Ovi Maps 3.3 main menu description. This description is for the new Nokia Maps 3.3 main menu interface. Usually when you open the application you are greted with the main menu which consists of 10 icons. There are two rows of 4 icons which are displayed on the screen and a further 2 which can be seen at the bottom left of the screen. The display almost looks like a 4-4-2 formation. For those who follow football will know what I'm relating to. When you first open the Ovi Maps 3.3 app the drive icon is highlighted. The drive icon is located on the left of the screen, second one down from the top left icon. If you select this drive icon you will be presented with a further 3 icons. The highlighter will be on the first of the 3 iconspresented which is on the left of the other two icons. The first icon is called drive home in this submenu. Selecting this will prompt the app tostart navigation to your home location. The second icon in this sub menu is called Set Destination. Pressing select on this will bring up a accessible menu where you can select an option of your choice. These choices consist of History, Favourites, Search and finally From Map. The From Map is the 4th option. The third and final icon from this Drive submenu is called Map. If you select this you will be shown a Map view of your current location. From this Map you can press select and you will then be presented with a accessible menu. The first of these options is Show Details.This will give you further information in text so You will know exactly where you are currently standing. For example a name of the road and the number of the property in which you may be standing by. Second option is Share location. Third option is Save Place. 4th option is Send. I have now covered the drive section of Ovi Maps 3.3. My Position Icon From the main icon screen remember when I pointed out that the highlighter is stationed on the Drive icon in which I have described in detail above. Above this icon is the My position icon which is situated on the top left of the screen. It's the first icon in the first row of icons. To get to this you just arrow up once from the Drive icon. With in this map view you can hit select to bring up an accessible menu. These consist of Show Details,Share Location, Save Place and the final option in the list is Send. Find PlacesThe Find Places icon is the second icon in from the top left next to theMy Position Icon. Pressing select on this will bring up a search box. Once you type in your search you should be presented with a result of your search. Share Location The Share Location Icon is the third icon in the top ro after the Find Places icon. You will have to create a Nokia account to take advantage of this feature. Favourites The Favourites Icon is the 4th and last icon in the top row. This is on the right of the Share Location icon. Pressing select on this will bring up theFavourites menu. The options here are Sincronise with Ovi, Places, Routsand Create New Collection. Second row of 4 icons description The First option in this row of icons is the Drive option. I have covered this earlier on in this document. Walk The Walk option resides next door to the Drive icon. Selecting this option will bring up a submenu of three icons. The first icon is Walk Home. This will trigger the navigation mode and you will be ready to outtake your journey on foot. Icon 2 is the Set Destination option. From heare you can select an address from a previous history or favourites. There are alsooptions to search or select from map. As the map it self is inaccessibleIthink this option is not applicable for the VI user. The final option inthe Walk submenu is help. Sadly this is also inaccessible. Weather The Weather icon is the third icon in the second row and this is inaccessible. Events The Events Icon is the final icon in the second row of four. This feature is also inacfcessible. Third row of 2 icons The third row which is the bottom row has two icons. Both are inaccessible. The first is called Loanly Plannet and the neighbouring icon is called Michelin. 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